if you smoke, would you smoke outside the hospital, in your nightwear?

[waikikamookau]

cos I am shocked whenever I walk by, virtually every day, with all and sundry sitting in their pyjamas.
have they no shame.
what I would do? get some proper clothes on for god's sake,

[TwistTee]

What Crashdoll said.

No hysteria, some of us just don't like smoking outside a hospital. I don't like walking through it or not being able to sit on a bench because of it, I don't like the mess it leaves, I don't like the message it sends out.

[flanbase]

LadyMary - sorry to hear on your fathers passing from copd.

[LarvalFormOfOddSock]

Twist, I don't like it either. That's why they should have smoking rooms.

[TheChaoGoesMu]

Well considering the revenue that smoking brings in, I can't see it being banned in my lifetime.

[ladyMaryQuiteContrary]

Thank you, flanbase. I am very biased as I used to beg him to stop and he couldn't. He did when he was diagnosed but it was too late. I'm sorry if I offend but I do think it's a very selfish addiction; not all smokers are considerate enough not to smoke around non smokers or children.

[LadyBeagleEyes]

Is it really £7 billion Salmo?
I deserve a medal.

[LarvalFormOfOddSock]

LadyMary, how about improving NHS help for those trying to quit then? Never been offered to me. But I'm a mental case so I obviously don't count.

[Buddhagirl]

I would

[ladyMaryQuiteContrary]

I thought the NHS gave out nicotine patches etc?

There's no shame in having mental health problems, Larval. You deserve the same care as everyone else. You need to complain.

[flanbase]

LadyMary - you don't offend with what you say. People that have health have such chance and I see teenagers smoking and I want to say stop now in case you regret it later or the passive smoking affects your friends. I've never smoked and it was chance I didn't smoke and now I say thank goodness as my breathing would be in a much worse state. My kids wont smoke and all those here that will say wait and see on this I can reply already and say I know they wont for sure.

[kawliga]

Exactly how much damage will it do walking through 3 seconds of smoke once in a blue moon?
Or are you at the hospital going through the huge cloud of smoke every hour, every day for years?

This. I don't smoke, but I also don't go into ridiculous hysterics if I have to spend 3 seconds walking past a smoker. If you want fresh air then find somewhere with fresh air to perch yourself. If the smoker is smoking at the only available passage-way maybe hold your breath as you go past? You won't actually drop dead if you hold your breath for all of 3 seconds. I do this sometimes when I walk past buses spewing out noxious fumes that I really don't want to breath in.

Live and let live.

[ladyMaryQuiteContrary]

They should ban it all-together, flan.

[LarvalFormOfOddSock]

LadyMary, I was told on a second occasion that if I voluntarily stayed overnight on the MH ward that they would provide me with nicotine patches. They didn't. It was a ruse to get me to stay voluntarily. I have never ever been offered nicotine patches or anything of the sort.

[TantrumsAndBalloons]

flan you cannot know your DCs won't ever try a cigarette.

Sorry but you can't. You can hope they dont, you can educate them. You can't know for sure.

[ladyMaryQuiteContrary]

Your GP should have a 'stop smoking' campaign or something similar, Larval. //smokefree.nhs.uk

[flanbase]

kaliga - I am not in the state of health to be able to hold my breath as long as someone with normal lungs. Next time you have to walk outside first run for one minute or so on the spot at full pace util you are out of breathe and your heart is going faster than normal for you, then hold your nose and breathe only through a straw in your mouth. Now walk by a smoker and you will experience a much better version of what it's like for me. Live and let live I wish could apply to not just the smoker.

[SummerRainIsADistantMemory]

My friend broke his back when he was 24. He spent 6 weeks strapped to a hospital bed unable to move, staring out a window day in day out going through nicotine withdrawal on top of everything else. When he was starting to regain his mobility one of his only pleasures was shuffling to the door of the hospital a couple of times a day to have a fag.

If anyone had seriously suggested he should get dressed to do so I would happily have smacked them on his behalf.

You can't possibly have idea what those patients standing outside the hospitalare dealing with, how sick or injured they are. What they are wearing is of no importance whatsoever and anyone who judges them based on a 5 second snapshot of their life is quite frankly an idiot of the highest order.

[LarvalFormOfOddSock]

It's just assumed that MH patients smoke. If they can't even begin to treat our MH problems, why are they going to bother about smoking?

We SHOULD be offered CBT. We SHOULD have choice over where we're treated. We SHOULD be treated with respect. We SHOULD we SHOULD we SHOULD, but we're not.

And that's not just those with MH issues.

[flanbase]

larval - your gp will be able to help on your being smoke free.

[LarvalFormOfOddSock]

Well said SummerRain.

[flanbase]

I've ever come across the assumption that MH patients smoke

[LarvalFormOfOddSock]

flanbase. Thank you, but I am. I quit some time before I became pregnant. My GP offered no help whatsoever. It was deemed that it would add to my anxieties.

[LarvalFormOfOddSock]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21956316

Please read it.

[flanbase]

Thanks for the link Larval. A quote from it "The failure of smoking prevention and treatment in this group is largely down to an acceptance of smoking as a "normal behaviour" and is an indictment on public health and clinical services, it said." There has to be the support needed and access to stopping smoking as for people without mh. I'm sorry to hear that your gp didn't help you as they should have.

[LarvalFormOfOddSock]

Thank you.