if you smoke, would you smoke outside the hospital, in your nightwear?

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cos I am shocked whenever I walk by, virtually every day, with all and sundry sitting in their pyjamas.
have they no shame.
what I would do? get some proper clothes on for god's sake,

shakey - your answer is in the word "morbidly"

Can I just add, that I agree (as a smoker) that passive smoking is a real health risk.

And it's that bad that the Government is banning smoking, the sale of cigarettes as of tomorrow. Oh..wait.

It'd perfectly legal for me to smoke outdoors, so tough.

It's perfectly legal for me to tell people to piss off as well, it doesn't mean I should do it.

Yeah, the air would be sooooo clean if no-one smoked.

Oh wait... Exhaust fumes, burning fossil fuels, sulphur dioxide from factories.

I don't smoke around doorways either btw - but the hysteria on this thread is getting on my tits.

I don't even think about passive smoking when I walk past a smoker, but even after just walking behind them for a few seconds the stink gets in my hair and clothes.

This is what annoys me about smokers. I don't want to smell of their fags and some smokers think that's unreasonable.

I try to give them the widest of berths, but when they congregate around entrances it can be impossible.

Smokers don't realise how smelly it is, I think.

Newcomer to the thread...yes, I would smoke outside the hospital in my nightwear and I did. I was in following an overdose which was precipitated by many years of not being treated for my condition (panic disorder with agoraphobia). It was all too much. I was taken into A&E wearing underwear and an overcoat so that's what I went out and smoked in.

FWIW it was no-where near any ward windows and there were a whole bunch of A&E staff smoking with me. I had nothing else to wear, had no phone with me and after I was admitted no friends or family were allowed in to see me either. I hadn't eaten for 3 days and they couldn't even provide me with food as I was admitted in the late evening.

It would have been great if I had thought to take a day dress with me when I was sectioned but, sadly, that was the last thing on my mind.

YABU. HTH.

I expected no less from you Pictish. It is legal and the day that it becomes illegal will be a landmark victory for those who are affected - and will also improve the health of many

Not to mention naturally occurring radon in some very unlucky areas...

That makes no sense. So morbidly obese people should not be admitted to hospital and given treatment? Or dietary advice from an NHS employed professional. Or given any paid NHS assistance at all?

You know what's in the smoke from a cigarette?

www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/healthyliving/smokingandtobacco/whatsinacigarette/smoking-and-cancer-whats-in-a-cigarette

Cancer-causing chemicals in tobacco smoke
Tar - a mixture of dangerous chemicals
Arsenic - used in wood preservatives
Benzene - an industrial solvent, refined from crude oil
Cadmium - used in batteries
Formaldehyde - used in mortuaries and paint manufacturing
Polonium-210 - a highly radioactive element
Chromium - used to manufacture dye, paints and alloys
1,3-Butadiene - used in rubber manufacturing
Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons - a group of dangerous DNA-damaging chemicals
Nitrosamines - another group of DNA-damaging chemicals
Acrolein - formerly used as a chemical weapon
Other chemicals
Other poisons in cigarette smoke
Hydrogen cyanide - used as an industrial pesticide
Carbon monoxide - found in car exhausts and used in chemicals manufacturing
Nitrogen oxides - a major component of smog
Ammonia - used to make fertilisers and explosives
More poisons

I think it has to be remembered that over the past few years smokers have found less and less places where they can go.

The 'fresh'' air is the 'fresh' air and while vehicles can spew their exhausts into it,I think any arguments relating to its' purity when it comes to the declining number of smokers around are pretty much null and void.

You will not shrivel into a screaming ball of agony over walking past a smoker in the fresh air.

No, I will just throw up, if I'm pregnant, and then you will look at me like I'm the revolting one.

Walking past smoking, heavily pregnant women, out side a hospital, when you have miscarried, and you did everything by the book, even though your baby wasn't planned infuriating. My inner child wanted to stamped my foot and shout "It's so bloody unfair!"

It's the banishing of smokers to the outside that's caused this.

Designated smoking rooms with fans and vents would make much more sense.

At least then we'd all be tucked up in one place.

salmotrutta - air pollution is a huge factor and the WHO guidelines have to be reached.

You're just opening your mouth and letting your stomach rumble.

Beautifully put.

If you go to a country that doesn't tax tobacco, say the Canaries eg, they cost about £3 quid, half that for tobacco.
As a pack of cigarettes here is about £7.50, then that is every tax payer putting about £5 into the economy every day (I smoke tobacco, so say half that).
There are still enough smokers in this country that are paying a huge amount of money into the ecomomy, if we weren't and if the tax accrued was not bloody worth it smoking would have been banned.
So if I go into a hospital with a smoke related illness, at least I'll know I've paid for it, unlike the silly bugger in the next bed who decided to do an extreme sport.
And, BTW, when I've been in hospital, I always wear naice pyjamas and a classy dressing gown .

They should prescribe nicotine patches on the NHS so patients and visitors don't need to smoke outside the hospital. Oh, wait...!

At least then we'd all be tucked up in one place.

Absolutely. In the warm.

LadyMary - how ironic. A fair number of those chemicals are being belched out all around you from industrial and other sources too!

And at much higher levels.

But just ignore that inconvenient little fact eh?

Or campaign to shut down heavy industry too.

Shaky - the medically obese. That's a topic I don't know to say on just that people should be offered help to get back to a healthy weight. Operations have more risk in this category of person. There's a lot that can go wrong from being overweight with no reason for this. Some people are obese from taking certain medications, not being able to be active

What, the WHO guidelines for pollution by industry have to be reached flanbase?

No one is discounting the environmental pollution which is huge and very dangerous for all. I have to wear a mask against this sometimes.

One step at a time, Salmotrutta. I trained as a nurse. In the middle of winter and with the frost and snow on the ground, the only people outside were the smokers. It is an addiction but it doesn't just harm the smokers but those who are unlucky enough to breathe the smoke in.