This is chavvy, that is chavvy. Fuck off with the use of chavvy

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AIBU?

All I seem to see lately is the word chavvy to describe names, items, clothes etc that people don't like.

So far names that aren't Arlo or Benedict, are double barreled or start with a K are chavvy.

Using Nanna is chavvy.

Wearing character clothing (children) is chavvy.

Everything is fucking chavvy. It makes me wonder what people think chavvy means? Am I the only one who has noticed this?

Oh. I don't mind! Like I said, I like my stuff and you like yours. Doesn't mean we couldn't be friends, colleagues, relatives whatever! Half my family are old school country posh, the other side are chavvy, love them both the same

My typing is atrocious today!

I have to say I don't know anyone IRL who wears Boden and the like, despite hanging out with mainly middle class folk. Either it's a MN thing or maybe they are a subset of upper middle class?

My sister's boyfriend did the Eton/Oxford thang and his Dad has an "estate" castle in Scotland but wears M&S jeans and mainly shops in charity shops. They drive a battered 20 year old Volvo.

I don't think chav means WC does it?! I thought it was all sovereign rings and burberry? >

There is no shame in being WC. I refuse to be looked down on or made to feel inferior because of where I live.where I work or my educational background.

To me the word Chav is mocking all I am.

I know that sounds like my chip ,but that's how I feel.

Sp - what contexts are people using it in that make no sense? Most of the stuff on this thread seems to be about taste,where IMO it makes sense.

Limited period- KarenMillen def got a touch of theTOWIE IMO

It doesn't just mean working-class. That's the point. People misuse it that way, and when enough people misuse something it eventually start to become the accepted "right" way (see also the abuse of words like "enormity" and "fulsome"). But it's not right.

It's only another word for common. Which has been in use for years.

I have no idea who or what any of the things in your post are, limited - I have no idea what that makes me?!

Usual - you say that you won't be looked down on,so why let a word bother you?

I thought the origin of the word "chav" was a traveller term but used as a term of endearment??!! Like "hello me old chav"!!

I could be wrong though!

Saying that Nanna is chavvy or toddler in character clothing? That does not make sense. Saying I dont like it yes, fair enough but saying chavvy?

People have different tastes. I'm not keen on the baby names most MNetters are such as Ptolemy but I don't say 'oh that's chavvy' or 'poncy'. I say its not my style but each to their own.

It means anything "obviously" working class, in a sneery derogatory way.

Well, that's my understanding of its usage, anyway!

Dadonice- it is a slang word with no singe accepted definition so it is not a case of people using it correctly or incorrectly

vinegar your sister's boyfriend and his dad not only look like crap but are the enemies of the consumer-led revival of the economy

Because it is a word that is used as a put down.
And it is used instead of common. Or working class.

That's why it upsets me anyway. Sorry usual I didn't mean to speak for you

But whilst it doesn't bother me that I am common or working class, I very much object to people making a judgement on my character based on where I live or what my sons name is.

oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/chav

that Is the official definition....

Everyone judges. Everyone bet you are in fact reading this right now thinking 'fuck her what does she know' or 'too right' or even 'meh'

Whether we stick a general term on it or not we are judging all the time - eg you are judging everyone using chavvy? Make you chavvy? Make you 'middle class' (in the inverted commas so many use that term in) or toffs, or 'lefty liberals', or 'right wing nutters'?

It's just a term of 'not so much' endearment, not really worthy of getting your knickers, pants, thongs, boxers, y-fronts under garments in a twist over.

All words have a definition, slang or not. As the OED definition linked to by coffee above shows, it's not just about being 'common' or WC - there is the "bling" or designer clothes element. Chavviness was always about being in-yer-face and flashy.

I do care that people write me and my children off as common or chavvy.

The implications go so much wider than MN.

Dancingwithmycat had it right earlier in the thread when she said that people think chavvy is anything two rungs below where I see myself on the social ladder and which I am scared that people might think of as something I would do unless I am rude about it." It denotes nothing more than the speaker's insecurity.

Anyone who sneers at another person because of their taste dies so out of insecurity. The poster who started the names thread yesterday sneered at names that are actually quite common and no one really bats an eyelid at. They had then started another thread with a list of names that they liked that some people would think were a bit over the top or pretentious. It's like using your kids as a way of saying 'look I'm middle class, honest!' When the truth is that anyone in any way decent couldn't give a shit if you call your kid Chardonnay Mae or Lucius Agamemnon.

And I'm sure Colleen Rooney lies on the beach on her fifth Caribbean holiday of year really giving a hairy shit what mumsnet thinks of her choice of baby names.

Nan is more common, that say grandma, but that s a very strange one as you say! Young children dressed in overtly branded/character clothing is chavvy IMO as I said its a matter of taste. I think it is vulgar,same as babies with pierced ears. Just my opinion though, I wouldn't expect others to like the childrens clothes I like, if they did the wouldn't doubt buy them!

stereotypes of people are just lazy

My MIL lives ina council house. She buys her food shopping in M&S and her clothes from jaegar!