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This is chavvy, that is chavvy. Fuck off with the use of chavvy

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SPsCliffingAllOverMN · 22/05/2013 13:47

AIBU?

All I seem to see lately is the word chavvy to describe names, items, clothes etc that people don't like.

So far names that aren't Arlo or Benedict, are double barreled or start with a K are chavvy.

Using Nanna is chavvy.

Wearing character clothing (children) is chavvy.

Everything is fucking chavvy. It makes me wonder what people think chavvy means? Am I the only one who has noticed this?

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limitedperiodonly · 22/05/2013 15:57

The personalised plate prejudice baffles me.

I know someone who has the plates 50 53XY and D0 53X on a Ferrari 458 and a Bugatti Veyron. If I was still young and single he wouldn't be my choice of a long term bet but I might go out with him if he asked. It might be fun.

But many of the most expensive plates are from the early 20th century and are one or two letters and a number. I believe the Queen Mother and Prince Charles owned them. Are they chavs?

DadOnIce · 22/05/2013 15:58

People have started to use it as shorthand for "common". Anyone wearing the wrong kind of clothes is called "chavvy", as is anyone who reads the Sun or has a child called Jayden-Kayden. That's not what it meant originally. It meant people with flaunted money and designer goods, but with no taste or class - think Wayne and Waynetta Slob after they win the lottery, or the kind of medallion-wearing chic parodied by comic Welsh hip-hopsters Goldie Lookin' Chain.

SPsCliffingAllOverMN · 22/05/2013 15:58

If you really care about the judgement of others that much, I would suggest you are not all that happy in how you do things?

I'm perfectly fine as I am but that's for the concern Confused I have said already I dont care about judgement. Its about the word chavvy been used by people who actually have no idea what it means and are using it to describe things which are mental.

I'm not one to give a shit about what people think.

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OwlLady · 22/05/2013 16:02

oh god, honeydragon is waiting for a bus

don't speak to anyone on the bus!

DadOnIce · 22/05/2013 16:03

I didn't know what the Rooney child was called and had to look it up. Oh, good grief.

Goal · 22/05/2013 16:04

As I said, to me chavvy is shorthand for common. I don't personally associate it with poor behaviour, though some do. When talking about the judgement of others I was speaking about people in general though I can see why You thought I was talking about you OP.

Dadonice - the OED doesn't agree with you! I think that's slang it prob has various origins and meanings to different people.

usualsuspect · 22/05/2013 16:05

People on MN who use the word Chav, really mean WC.

Goal · 22/05/2013 16:05

Sp -what do you think chavvy means?

DadOnIce · 22/05/2013 16:06

The problem with the OED definition is that it is allowed to be retrospective. So if they find a reference to it being from Chatham - even if that's just a mention on a website - and it can be corroborated by another source, it will go down as a "possible definition" even when this may have come after the event. I know how these things work. I used to watch "Balderdash and Piffle." :)

SPsCliffingAllOverMN · 22/05/2013 16:08

Goal I assumed you meant me about the judgement after saying the OP seemed chavvy to you. I've lready said what chavvy is to me. Its the attitude and behaviour. Its not something people want to be called.

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usualsuspect · 22/05/2013 16:09

I think describing someone as common is as offensive as calling someone a Chav.

limitedperiodonly · 22/05/2013 16:10

The taste v class thing is nonsense.

Lots of middle England-approved brands are are triumph of style over substance and represent very poor value for money.

Conversely many bling-tastic brands are extremely good value in terms of raw materials and manufacture relative to their eventual cost.

It all depends on what you want the product to do and whether you have the money to spare.

I wouldn't dream of shattering MN-etters' dreams by shitting on some of their treasured and shoddy brands.

SPsCliffingAllOverMN · 22/05/2013 16:10

Usual I'm common it seems. So be it

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thegreylady · 22/05/2013 16:12

I thought chav came from the Romany word for child.

TantrumsAndBalloons · 22/05/2013 16:14

Common. Working class. Chavvy. Lives in a council house.

It all means the same thing. On here anyway.
Happily I am 3 out of 4. And many people think I am chavvy due to my name/my children's names. So Full house.

I doubt that's what chavvy actually means. I doubt you can judge am entire persons character based upon their children's names, what they call their Nan's but I read some threads on here and think I'd rather be common/chavvy/working class/live in a council house than be a MC, snobby judgemental twat that gets so worked up over character clothing and names.

DreamsTurnToGoldDust · 22/05/2013 16:14

People try so hard these days to be middle class, its really hilarious. I guess when someones says oh no, I couldnt name pfb {whatever name}or wear certain clothes, dress their house in a specific way etc what they are trying to scream is,look at me, Im middle class dont you know.

MC they are not, they are actually TC [twat class] Anyone using chav or common as an insult are really rather stupid.

usualsuspect · 22/05/2013 16:15

The MC wear their uniform of Boden,White Stuff,Joules Hunter wellies etc.

just different labels, not so different from the supposed Chav labels really.

Goal · 22/05/2013 16:15

Why is it offensive? People have different tastes, people choose what they like? Some people won't like choices? I obviously like mychoices, otherwise I would have chosen something different! Why care what others think?

SPsCliffingAllOverMN · 22/05/2013 16:15

Twat class

^^ Grin

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SPsCliffingAllOverMN · 22/05/2013 16:16

X post! Not calling Goal that Grin

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Fedupofdiets · 22/05/2013 16:17

I'm chavvy apparently as dd had Mar as her middle name! Shock

SPsCliffingAllOverMN · 22/05/2013 16:17

Goal Its not about caring what people think. Its about how they are using the word chavvy. It makes no sense. It it was a caring I'd be questioning you as to why you think I'm common but I'm not as I don't care.

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Fedupofdiets · 22/05/2013 16:18

Mae even!

ZZZenagain · 22/05/2013 16:18

I agree with usualsuspect that chav is said when working class is meant, as if to say working class = no class, tacky. You can also get away with saying chav where common would make you look bad.

I hate it too. I actually don't see the big scandal in being or looking or acting working class tbh.

limitedperiodonly · 22/05/2013 16:18

The MC wear their uniform of Boden,White Stuff,Joules Hunter wellies etc.