This is chavvy, that is chavvy. Fuck off with the use of chavvy

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AIBU?

All I seem to see lately is the word chavvy to describe names, items, clothes etc that people don't like.

So far names that aren't Arlo or Benedict, are double barreled or start with a K are chavvy.

Using Nanna is chavvy.

Wearing character clothing (children) is chavvy.

Everything is fucking chavvy. It makes me wonder what people think chavvy means? Am I the only one who has noticed this?

Habba, the Swiss were not always rich. They created and built their society and it is built on equality and democracy with referenda on many aspects that are important to all citizens, and in these referenda it is one man, one vote so the noble has no more say than the peasant farmer.

Our society always had a nobility which enforced a rigid class hierarchy to keep the serfs down. Other countries had a different history and many have more social mobility than we do.

We have an archaic first past the post system where the votes of 25% of the voters who voted UKIP won't even probably gain a single seat in a general election.

That is how the class stratification is allowed to survive, because our system does not allow for change and the voice of the people to be heard.

claig - my parents are immigrants to this country. I have friends who are also immigrants albeit from other parts of the world. Most of us are university graduates. Some are in ordinary 9-5 office jobs, some are business owners. One is a local councillor. Ok, hardly CEO or Whitehall civil servant mandarin but we are doing ok.

But don't let the above get in the way of your blame culture serfs monologue.

The indigenous poor do baldly compared to newly arrived poor and it has nothing to do with class warfare. And before anyone says it, no our parents were not educated MC refugees.

We have a cabinet that has a disproportionate number of Old Etonians and advisers in the chumocracy who are often Old Etonians too, as well as a Mayor of London who is an old Etonian.

It wouldn't matter if they were the cleverest and best qualified people in the country, butthey evidently aren't, and they are divorced from the everyday experience of the majority of the population.

I think it shows that our system is just as class-based and privileged as it has always been. In fact we have taken a step backwards from the days when much more talented working and middle class people such as Harold Wilson, Denis Healey and Margaret Thatcher were making decisions that reflected the wishes of the people.

The chav thing, the U and non-U thing is all about maintaining a class structure that stifles real change and the creativity of working people. That is different to a more egalitarian country like Germany which is the first or second exporting country in the world and the powerhouse of Europe rather than a country run by privileged chums in the chumocracy.

Personally I find the OPs opening title chavvy. Why the need to swear? So chavvy.

The chums who pander to their chums in the City, "knight them for services to banking" and bail them out with our money, while calling their own party activists "swivel-eyed loons" and possibly calling the rest of us "chavs".

ItsYoni Its Mumsnet, here you can swear without been censored. If that's chavvy then nearly every MNetter is too

I realise that SP. I'm just mentioning it because you are complaining about people being chavvy. Pot calling kettle black and all that.

sonnet i have an opinion about people who cant spell complimentary and hide their little digs under a strike out but there you go. Such is life :)

Why the need to swear yoni?
well we are all adults arent we? Free speech and all that. Seems a bit pointless to post on a thread where the title offends you so much?

claig - I am not disputing the fact that the ruling political/business elite are heavily stacked against the WC. I am merely making the point that many immigrants just get on with improving their lives and that of their children without playing the blame game.

Yoni Swearing isn't something only 'chavvy' people do. You do realise that dont you? You do the queen probably shouts 'oh fuck' when she stubs her toe?

Well then if swearing makes you a chav then every fucker is a chav

Yoni Its not about people been chavvy if you read it! Its about the term chavvy been used to describe things people don't like such as using Nanna in stead of grandmother. That's not about people been chavvy

' I am merely making the point that many immigrants just get on with improving their lives and that of their children without playing the blame game.'

Well unlike you, I don't only care what immigrants do. I don't divide the people of the country into immigrants and non-immigrants and imply that immigrants do better than non-immigrants because non-immrants play the blame game.

I answered a poster's question as to why class is a much more important issue in our society than in probably all other European societies, and it is due to our history (with even our royal family being one of the few remaining royal families in all of Europe) and due to our chums writing books about U and non-U and perpetuating the class system so that the people can't interfere with the chumocracy running the country.

And the reason it matters is because countries like Germany perform better than we do. They don't rely on a handful of chums in the City to solve their trade deficits, and they harness the potential of their people.

We could do much better than we are doing because many working and middle class people, and people described as "chavs", have more potential than all the chums in Chipping Norton combined.

The Royal Family is an irrelevance. They probably cost us the same as a couple of Apache helicopters so hardly a drain on state coffers.

It is not about moeny, it is about hierachy and the hierarchical, hereditary structure that they represent.

It is similar to why Labour and the LibDems (and not the chums) argue for House of Lords reform to remove the hereditary aspect of unelected people making decisions that represent the people.

I always imagined the Queen to say "cunty bollocks" pronounced "kenty bollix" but there we go.

Notso She drops her phone while FBing and shouts 'oh cunty bollocks'

SPs I reckon she calls Philleep a twunt as well!

No need to take it quite so seriously TantrumsandBalloons - I possibly missed a wink/smile emoticon off my post but I was posting in the tounge in cheek style of the rest of the thread.

Quite a mean post TantrumsandBalloons for the style of this thread

claig - did you just hold up Margaret Thatcher as an example of a politician whose decisions reflected the wishes of the people??????

Mean? Ok. Sorry if I misread the tone of your post.

limitedperiodonly

"silver why do you think the Rooneys don't have taste?

They own some of the most prestigious brands in the world owned by some of the most prestigious people in the world.

Is it just because you can't afford the same stuff?"

Why do you assume I can't?

"claig - did you just hold up Margaret Thatcher as an example of a politician whose decisions reflected the wishes of the people??????"

That's right. She won three elections and was the longest serving Prime Minister of the twentieth century.