This is chavvy, that is chavvy. Fuck off with the use of chavvy

[SPsCliffingAllOverMN]

AIBU?

All I seem to see lately is the word chavvy to describe names, items, clothes etc that people don't like.

So far names that aren't Arlo or Benedict, are double barreled or start with a K are chavvy.

Using Nanna is chavvy.

Wearing character clothing (children) is chavvy.

Everything is fucking chavvy. It makes me wonder what people think chavvy means? Am I the only one who has noticed this?

I knew this would be you as soon as I seen the title. :o

YANBU

You are right SP.
And it's used in such a derogatory way on here, they really mean common as muck of course, but don't dare to say it in those words.

It's the modern equivalent of common I suppose.

It has its place (or a synonym has a place) but I'm not sure it will ever be inoffensive, because of what it means.

I always thought chav meant more money than taste? Think Jordan or Danielle Westbrook etc.

I am a bit of a chav myself tbh, without the dosh though

YABU. The word chavvy is very useful sometimes. It serves a purpose. I have no idea why such a simple word seems to provoke such strong reactions on MN. It's just a word.

So character clothing is only chavvy on children? I'm okay in my Micky Mouse shirt?

Thank god for that.*

*Note, I don't actually give a fuck if people think I'm chavvy. Or common as muck. Or whatever.

Clouds Useful when?

Chavvy = common = naff = not something my sort of person would do

ie = snobbery

I've been wondering the same thing..how can a name, or a decision to wear a certain perfume, or having to claim benefits etc etc make one chavvy? Isn't "chavvy" about attitude - how you treat others, yourself etc?

Stereotyping a person just because of one aspect of their personality seems completely ridiculous.

I don't care what people are called, or wear etc..what I do care about is how they conduct themselves - a lack of manners/decency/respect/consideration etc would have me turning my back on that person...but a name? It's meaningless in the context of who someone is!

I do think it has two meanings though

1. Loud, vulgar, non-u, unattractive and often rude/defiant as well (example: woman wearing white tracksuit walking down road announcing 'well I aint fuckin avin it' or somesuch in the course of a private conversation, although everyone can hear)

1. Aspirational, in the sense of someone buying a fake Tudor mansion in Essex, but not necessarily rude.

Tee I am unsure. You will have to go find out on the 'character clothes' thread. Its about children but you could ask about adults in them

The word chav originally stood for 'council house and violent' apparently! Charming. And yes really annoying and overused.

I am far too chavvy for this thread.

:)

You're right. I hate it all too. It's just about superiority.

What's wrong with using nanna?

I dislike its obvious 'us' (being so excellent and tasteful) and 'them' (cheap plebs) connotation.

I really quite resent it on mn. For me it brings all that's nasty from rl /school gates to here, somewhere for debate and enjoyment. Clutches pearls is as bad. Hideous term.

See, I thought the word Chav was just the English equivalent of Ned. Is that not the case then?

Either way, it is horrible to call a person "chavvy" for their clothes/name etc. I actually think that makes the person saying it look rather un-classy to be honest.

It's not necessarily about superiority. It can be a defence, against what is commonly felt to be rather frightening behaviour or attributes.

Also I believe it derives from an old Romany term for 'child'

YANBU I don't open baby name threads any more. I think they're horrible.

I hate the use of 'chavvy'. However, I am guilty of calling some things (such as personalised number plates) 'naff'. Is that just as bad? It's still judgy, just doesn't sound so hate-filled.

I hate it. I'm fed up of seeing my name described as Chavvy. A name can't be Chavvy.

When you are trying to describe one thing that is chavvy.

The only problem is that it means different things to different people, maybe depending on what area you are from.

'Nanna' is fine imo

It's the word 'naaan' said in a Kentish drawl that depresses the hell out of me

because everyone I've ever known, referred to as 'Naaan' has been a wizened, smoking old lady with a questionable approach to childcare.

just personal experience - no offence to those with a perfectly nice Nan.

Doesn't it come from Charver, they use in in the north East and in Romany families.

TooMany Apparently its chavvy and so is using any other name then grandmother.

I best tell my 92 year old great grandma shes chavvy hadn't I

There's also a claim that CHAV might have come from the Cheltenham area from a particular college: Chav meaning Cheltenham Average on a scale of who was who when it came to dating men (I cannot for the life of me remember where I read that now, but the article noted that no one knows for sure where the term really originated)