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Tina Mallone Pregnant at 50

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Lickitysplit · 16/05/2013 13:07

AIBU to think it is crazy that Tina Malolne (from Shameless) is pregnant at 50 by donor egg?

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squoosh · 16/05/2013 16:06

Putting aside the idea of fighting against nature/menopause do people think it's worse for a child to have an older mother/younger father than an older father/younger mother or that an older parent is a bad idea generally?

KitchenandJumble · 16/05/2013 16:07

Why does it matter that she used donor eggs? I don't understand the posts saying that if she'd become pregnant naturally, that would be OK but donor eggs are somehow beyond the pale.

I don't think 50 is too old to have a child. My DH is over 50. Is it wrong for him to want another child? (BTW, I want one too!) Anyone who thinks they should have an opinion about our family choices can fuck right off.

oldwomaninashoe · 16/05/2013 16:13

I don't think its anyones place to make a judgment on this, who knows what anyone of us would do in similar circumstances.

ChangeNameToday · 16/05/2013 16:16

I think she is BU to buy another woman's egg to create a child for her DH.

I am morally opposed to that.

As for her age, it seems very old to me but not really my business. I wouldn't do it personally. Wrt sharing every moment of "the journey" with the world, of course she is crass and vulgar. But then we knew that.

ChangeNameToday · 16/05/2013 16:18

I think she is BU to buy another woman's egg to create a child for her DH.

I am morally opposed to that.

As for her age, it seems very old to me but not really my business. I wouldn't do it personally. Wrt sharing every moment of "the journey" with the world, of course she is crass and vulgar. But then we knew that.

ItsallisnowaFeegle · 16/05/2013 16:21

My DM died at 52. She was a young woman in her pomp.

Who knows what tomorrow brings for any of us, regardless of age. Why the fuck are people putting a downer on someone else's happiness?

valiumredhead · 16/05/2013 16:22

What are the chances of a 50 year old getting pregnant naturally?

ArthurCucumber · 16/05/2013 16:26

KitchenandJumble, I'll fuck right off then, and go and care for my mother who is in her 80s, who I've had to support throughout my dds' childhood. My two are still young and I'm managing to fail everybody in the process. My Dad died, aged 80, before dd2 was even born, but if it hadn't been for the cancer I'd have been caring for a 90+ year old parent as well.

You need to understand that decisions you make about what you want at 50 have repercussions that don't just affect you, they affect the child, years down the line at the age when they might want children of their own. For those who say "oh, but people can become ill and need care at any age" - yes, that's true, but statistically that's more likely to happen to an 80 yr old than a 60 yr old.

ipswitch · 16/05/2013 16:27

valiumredhead 5% chance if conceiving naturally at 50 apparently.

JenaiMorris · 16/05/2013 16:30

"Nature" didn't create the menopause because 50yo women are too old to become parents ffs.

Statements claiming there are (or any other "nature...for a reason" opinions for that matter) suggest to me that there's some Earth Goddess making decisions about who should be born and to whom. Well there isn't.

There are eveolutionary theories suggesting that there was an advantage in having some grandmothers around to help look after their grandchildren. Maybe ceasing to be fertile meant that they were unencumbered by infants, or maybe it meant they were no longer running the risk of death in childbirth.

There are probably dozens of factors that made the menopause advantageous, but most aren't really relevant these days.

KitchenandJumble · 16/05/2013 16:35

ArthurCucumber, you do that then. I don't need your opinion about my life. And please refrain from the patronising "You need to understand" nonsense. I understand just a wee bit more about my decisions than you do.

ArthurCucumber · 16/05/2013 16:39

And I understand more about what you'd be letting a child in for, Kitchen. But I see I won't change your mind, and you won't change mine.

KitchenandJumble · 16/05/2013 16:40

No, you absolutely do not. FFS. Who do you think you are?

ArthurCucumber · 16/05/2013 16:44

I'm a person who is calmly disagreeing with you, Kitchen. No more and no less. I'm contributing to a thread with my own, valid experience.

valiumredhead · 16/05/2013 16:45

Arthur makes valid points I think and ones that need considering imo. Sorry you are having a shit time, sounds very difficult.

higgle · 16/05/2013 16:46

Can't understnad all the negative comments on here. If the child is anything like mine s/he will be very independent by 16 or so and off to uni and have flown the nest by the time Tina is 68/9, so hardly geriatric. At least she won't be contributing to the awful situation where some people end up caring for their parents and grandparents.

Helen Mirren will be 68 in July - she is certainly not the sort of person you would be embarassed to have as your mother.

topcatrocks · 16/05/2013 16:47

Good luck to her! There shouldn't be any medical reason for her not to go ahead with it, as long as she's healthy.

ItsallisnowaFeegle · 16/05/2013 16:47

I doubt very much Kitchen is a fucking clueless arsehole. Her life (and Tina Mallone's life) their decisions.

I'm sure such a decision is never taken lightly and all potential consequences are thoroughly investigated and discussed.

I canny believe some people's self important attitudes.

Good luck Kitchen Wink

KitchenandJumble · 16/05/2013 16:48

Nope, sorry, Arthur. It's one thing to comment about something in the abstract or even about a public figure. But I'm talking about my life and my family's decisions, and I think you have overstepped the mark by saying that you understand the situation better than I do. You don't. You're wrong.

LadyBeagleEyes · 16/05/2013 16:48

My dad died at 47 Arthur.
My mum died last year at 80.
I'm in my 50's but I still had to help care for her as she became helpless and had dementia, with a teenage son sitting important exams.
What happens in life is utterly random, TM could live till 90 and be as fit as a fiddle.
Her younger partner could be run over a bus next week. To decide not to do things in your life because of what could happen is no way to live.

ArthurCucumber · 16/05/2013 16:49

All the Fucking came from Kitchen, as far as I can see. But yes, good luck with the decisions you make for yourself and your child.

KitchenandJumble · 16/05/2013 16:49

Thank you, ItsallisnowaFeegle. :)

AuntieEggy · 16/05/2013 16:50

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ArthurCucumber · 16/05/2013 16:52

I did comment in the abstract. None of us can tell the future, but none of us can pretend that a 60 yr old is less likely to need care than an 80 yr old. And if you ("one") have a child at 50, then by the time he/she is 30 (an average age to have young children) you ("one") will be either 80 or dead.

LadyBeagleEyes · 16/05/2013 16:53

She actually said that in the interview AuntieEggy.
She knew it was early days, but would deal with it as and when it came.
There was also an equal chance that she would have a negative test, and she was prepared for that too.
Ok, I wouldn't do this on National telly but each to their own.
Her bloke does seem lovely too.