Secondary school uniform & micro mini skirts - AIBU?

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Walking past our local secondary school at home time this afternoon and I was literally gobsmacked at the length of the skin tight micro mini skirts, they came up to the line of their bums & you could literally see one girls crotch, luckily she had tights on.

AIBU to think the teachers should send them home to put a more appropriate skirt on?! I'm starting to feel like an old codger but DD will be starting there soon and I'm just hoping there isn't pressure to be overtly sexual from such a young age, it's makes me kinda sad.

motherinferior - what do you mean? my skirts were short and i had no bra...

the micro-mini skirts are shocking enough - but at least most of the people who wear them look neat, tidy, and quite nice - just too much leg showing.

its the tights-masquerading-as leggings that get me. they look ridiculous and indecent.

oh, and the boys in their bum-out trousers.

There are far more important things to worry about.

DDs school wastes everyone's time and my money (just bought DD1 a longer skirt to keep one prat of a teacher happy), fussing about skirt length.

DD2 still rolls hers shorter as soon as she gets to school, DD1 still puts her old one on (scantiness rather than rebellion).

The girls who refuse to wear reasonable length skirts are wearing skinny jeans and leggings which look far worse than the short skirts (school skirts are at least lined against VPL)

The sixth form who are allowed black skirts wear the stretch belts and look like they should be standing on dodgy street corners.

Honestly they all looked better before school said anything, at least we had normal school trousers on 60% of the girls.

At dd's school they have unannounced inspections every so often; anyone not wearing the correct length is sent home.
When I was at school (all girls's convent!) we had to kneel on the floor; any hem not touching the floor was deemed too short and a monstrously large specimen was produced from the head nun's cupboard to be worn all day.
There were few repeat offenders

On a serious note our school has banned skirts for the rolling up reason as the male teachers seriously objected to standing in front of a class of knicker flashers it is embarassing for them and if it was mentioned they were accused of being pervs and they should not be looking. Really unfair on the poor blokes.

I think they should all wear trousers!

Mother of a short skirt wearer here.
Meh. I can't get too worked up about it. I'd rather dd first dealt with unwanted male attention in the daylight and with friends. The extrapolation of expecting women to not dress attractively so that they don't tempt men.

Sorry I taled off there...
I was thinking of a school with a large proportion of boys from a notoriously chauvinistic ethnic background, where the girls chose not to wear skirts or makeup as they were then seen as fair game.

Even kilts aren't immune to being shortened. At my DD's school, they swapped to a knee length tartan kilt for precisely this reason.

The girls that used to wear a mini just wear it literally under their boobs, with the shirt tucked in, and 'fluffed' over the top of it.

It looks efkin daft, but it makes the skirts shorter.

I'm so glad DD eschews all that and only wants trousers...

Frankly I don't care about the length of skirts or the colour of hair. What I care about are promises about high standards of behaviour that aren't delivered and when the school is adamant standards are high in spite of episodes of: theft, intimidation, assault, pyromania; in spite of the fact that a school drops from the top 100 to 132 because results are being allowed to deteriorate; when the school asks for a 200% increase in the maintenance grant but doesn't communicate, is allowing standards to deteriorate and appears to play lipservice to parents; when parent governor meetings no longer take place because the statutory requirement to communicate has been removed by government - so what - a good school, an outstanding school would continue to communicate.

Short skirts - PAH!! PRIORITIES.

I do think there is a cultural change going on. At the school here in Belfast that our daughters have and are still attending they recently changed the skirt style to a much longer one. Well below the knee whereas in the past they were barely just below the blazer level. Anybody who is from NI will know that a lot of schools here had this problem for many years. I know when the daughters school went to any school event in the Republic they were met with shocked looks over their skirt lengths compared to those down there. Micro skirts versus ankle length kilts. But it now seems to be on the way out because the schools have made the decision to actually enforce the rules and insist on a skirt style that is fit for purpose. The old plain style skirt was too easy to roll up or have the hem adjusted, the new style skirts which are much longer have multiple pleats which when rolled up look hideous. Thankfully!!

At my school, us girls wear our skirts as bras and nothing else. The public don't mind.

At DD's new naice school they have reacted to the inappropriate skirts available in supermarkets by insisting that the girls wear the same "school-approved" style from the suppliers.

Unfortunately they have a lot of elastic in the waist so the girls get them two sizes too small and voilà - a loincloth. Gotta admire the resourcefulness of teenagers

I think its quite sad that people think children shouldn't wear skirts what ever length they want to or over the knee socks because people view it as sexualised dress just because some perverted fantasy pedophiles have claimed that look in porn mags like barely legal.

There is nothing sexual about a child no matter what they are wearing or how high the hem on the skirt is.

There is also something very strange about anyone who gets sexual gratification from looking at people pretending to be school children.

Of course children can look sexual. That is why people get upset when young girls wear makeup and thongs. It's not just dirty imagination at work.

People get upset about make up and stuff because its something normally done by adults to 'improve' how they look. It does not look sexual on a child.

Children wearing make up and short skirts look like children trying to look older. Its why girls dressed like that with make up on tend to get asked for ID more than ones who don't when trying to buy age restricted products.

They don't look sexual.

Well yes, SockReturningPixie . That's hardly news to anyone, but there are a scarily large amount of weirdos out there.
That's not news either.

You seriously believe that pedophiles target children due to short skirts?

I used to roll mine up and I know damn well my 14 year old daughter rolls hers up. So do all her friends. However, they all stick shorts on underneath as she says that they don't want everyone to see their knickers when they're walking upstairs.

Unfortunetly no matter how long, girls will roll up their skirts, i did from about 14 and i cringe now remembering all the old blokes in vans leering or beeping at me. But i did it to get attention from young boys, a typical teenage thing really.

The kilts worn around here seem to be just as short as the plain school skirts with only one pleat. Doesn't seem to make much difference.

My eldest 3 DDs have all been told off at some point about their skirts, but no matter what I say, the allure of fitting in with their friends is greater.

They wear school-issued kilts in winter (which, by the way, can most definitely still be rolled up). I actually don't mind these as much, as they are worn with thick tights and the pleats mean that they don't cling in the same way as straight skirts. I've caught all 3 older DDs with them rolled up on occasions. Although I'd rather they wore them at the knee or just above, the mid-thigh kilt doesn't make them look promiscuous or tarty. They just look like children with a vast tyre of fabric round their middles.

In the summer, the school loses its mind changes it's uniform. They wear plain straight skirts. These can be obtained from the school shop, but can also be got at most school uniform shops. I've noticed when dropping off that almost without exception, the girls' going into school have skirts that are a good couple of inches shorter in summer, and that's presumably before they get rolled up. This, twinned with socks and bare legs as opposed to tights, is more uncomfortable for me. I've had battles with the DDs about where we get the skirts from, how short they should be and how tight they should be. I cruelly have made them all wear skirts that end just above the kneecap. I'm bloody certain that all 3 of them roll them up - I've caught them a couple of times and read the riot act, and I've had the 'uniform slip' from school telling me their skirts are too short. Clearly, I am making them wear them longer, the school is telling them to wear them longer, yet they STILL find opportunities to wear them short.

I genuinely think they roll the skirts up because the other girls at school do it - it's pack instinct. Their friends all wear their skirts short, so they want to as well. I don't think it has much to do with being sexy or grown up - certainly for the younger 2. It's all about fitting in. DD4 who is still at primary school has eyed up shorter school skirts because her sisters wear them, and confidently tells me that when she's in year 7 she 'will get to wear higher skirts'.

I just tell myself that DD1 got great GCSES and is doing well at AS level. DD2 and DD3 are getting great reports and are happy. They're all kind hearted girls. If they flash their thighs to a bunch of their peers, I will get over it.

Sockreturning, it would be lovely if things were so simple, and no child could look sexy until the day she or he turned 16. You are deluded though if you think that is the case, and yes even prebuscents can be cast in an erotic light, as a vast archive of art and literature support.

DD's school has a knee length kilt,bought from approved supplier,and there are regular 'skirt checks' involving frantic unrolling of waistbands!