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Secondary school uniform & micro mini skirts - AIBU?

162 replies

Damselion · 16/04/2013 21:12

Walking past our local secondary school at home time this afternoon and I was literally gobsmacked at the length of the skin tight micro mini skirts, they came up to the line of their bums & you could literally see one girls crotch, luckily she had tights on.

AIBU to think the teachers should send them home to put a more appropriate skirt on?! I'm starting to feel like an old codger but DD will be starting there soon and I'm just hoping there isn't pressure to be overtly sexual from such a young age, it's makes me kinda sad.

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alwaysinhiding · 17/04/2013 11:52

I only left school 10 years ago and skirts were rolled up but so they were above knee! Most girls wore trousers though, I think it looks vile the way they are worn now, personally think it should be trousers and sweaters for both sexes.

Birdsgottafly · 17/04/2013 13:06

The naughty kiss-o-gram school girls shouldn't exist, rather than the condemnation of teenagers pushing boundaries, though. Some people are looking at this the wrong way round. No man should look at a underage girl in uniform, or a bikini and stare enough to be sexually aroused. Stockings are rebellious, as in a rock chick look way, rather than porn, from my POV, so again not always sexual. However, my DD was one to push the boundaries, way to far, I switch her school and she greatly benefited from being forced to dress appropriately and the tougher discipline. So I think that it is a shame that some schools aren't tougher in "deprived areas", they are underselling their pupils. I don't agree with the total "no make up rule", if we are preparing teens for the adult world, then some of the rules don't make sense. I think that I lot of people give incorrect values to Teen behaviour.

malinois · 17/04/2013 13:09

fluffyraggies hate to shock you but at my school, late 80s, stockings+suspenders with a calf length side-split skirt were de rigeur in the sixth form. The changing rooms for games looked like a scene from the Benny Hill show.

BanjoPlayingTiger · 17/04/2013 13:13

At my school we all wore ankle length skirts. I was in my hometown recently and noticed that several of the girls still do - though it does appear that most of them wear trousers which we weren't allowed to back then.

girlwhowearsglasses · 17/04/2013 13:18

I don't agree with uniform!

Perhaps as they have to wear uniform they are using any means possible to subvert it. Betcha they would be in jeans if no uniform and more time could be spent sorting out real discipline issues

I know its a long running debate - and I know all the arguments for it, but I went to a school without uniform and we mostly wore jeans. Some people obviously took some time to 'explore their individuality', but that's a learning process and I think good to do at school age as much as any other time...

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cathpip · 17/04/2013 13:38

One of my local secondary schools has a no skirt rule, every pupil has to wear trousers all due to girls rolling their skirts up. The trousers also have to be one of a choice of two from the uniform shop!!

LaQueen · 17/04/2013 13:43

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HorryIsUpduffed · 17/04/2013 13:44

If I were in charge of a school I wouldn't ban makeup but I would ban foundation. Utterly unnecessary for teenagers (causes, not covers, spots) and just too TOWIE inexpertly applied.

Spider lashes? Meh, if you like.

Startail · 17/04/2013 13:46

Girlwhowearsglasses I agree totally, but given your user name I'd have to.

DD1 is totally pissed off at lining up outside the door and wasting 5 minutes at the beginning of every lesson checking ties, shoes and skirt lengths (since no doubt they are actually judging the legs too, I've never met a man who doesn't.)

Also it's totally arbitrary, DD1's skirt is too short, not fashion she's grown. Strangely teenage girls do.

No one has given a monkeys for two years, but suddenly on particular teacher decides he has to say something. Why because its the same length as her class mates, who hates his subject and no doubt has annoyed him. Therefore, they both get moaned at.

The result is he's mildly irritated his best scientist and added another tick to the do A levels somewhere without uniform column and confirm he is a pratt to her class mate.

JenaiMorris · 17/04/2013 13:48

Some people seem to move from young childhood straight to a stereotypically dull middle age.

And "overtly sexual" ffs. Really?

Lucylloyd13 · 17/04/2013 14:01

Young women shortening school skirts- well I never!

it has always happened, and always will, girls will be girls. the only solution is trousers. (And watch leggings appear!)

motherinferior · 17/04/2013 14:44

I loathe uniform too.

JenaiMorris · 17/04/2013 14:56

They should all wear knickerbockers. Boys AND girls.

aPseudonymToFoolHim · 17/04/2013 19:20

I've become an old gimmer since DD started secondary school in September (actually it set in WAY before that, being Hmm at girls showing their arses on the way to school.)

When DD went for her uniform fitting, I was horrified at the length of skirt - it's a special one designed just for this school, with a flat panel over the stomach, a ribbon then pleats. I made her get the next size up for extra length, but as she walked out of the changing room, the whole thing fell down around her ankles! So she has the shorter one (and has bloody well shot up since Sept too) which, if she doesn't wear tights, shows most of her arse (pretty sure the lads' hang out will be at the foot of any staircase in that school!)

But that's the uniform!

specialsubject · 17/04/2013 19:27

girls have been doing that for years - or the sheep-like ones have, anyway. There may be a few who want to look different but they are rare.

they will hopefully grow up with minds of their own. Just pass it off as the dumb teen thing - we all had some manifestation of it.

orangepudding · 17/04/2013 19:42

DD's school skirt comes in just two lengths, the larger sizes are 2 inches longer than the smaller sizes.

DD is in year 7, one of the shortest - the skirts sits mid knee.

I used to think the older girls rolled the skirts, many don't need too - if you have long legs and are tall the skirt will look tiny! Also if the girls are wide then they are lucky if they cover their bum once they have hoiked them up below the bust if they are too small to fit on the waist.

LaQueen · 18/04/2013 10:55

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Blissx · 18/04/2013 11:16

AIBU to think the teachers should send them home to put a more appropriate skirt on?!

I just picked up on this comment. Why is it always the teachers' fault not the parents who buy/let them leave the house with these skirts or the actual teens in question? How do you know the teens don't just hoik their skirts up on their way to /from school or just when they think someone isn't looking? I'm not naive enough to think that some teens do get away with this in schools, however, I don't like the sweeping assumption it is the teachers letting them down.

Jins · 18/04/2013 11:28

They all settle down when they get to sixth form and can wear their own clothes instead of some stupid outfit that the governors approved.

I was the same at this age. Except it was all long length skirts and granny boots then and we got told off for having our skirts too long

Miggsie · 18/04/2013 11:45

I get taxis to work.
One driver, if we went past any group of girls dressed like this would immediately look at them and not the road right until they were out of eyeshot - youc ould see his head starting to swivel the minute girls came into view, we nearly had an accident twice. I don't use that driver any more.

Quite a lot of road accidents are caused by blokes eyeing up scantily dressed girls and women on the pavement rather than concentrating on the road - as I get a lot of taxis I can tell you now some blokes ALWAYS look - so even if you think the short skirt is ok - it is sending some sort of signal to hypnotise/distract men - at least based on my taxi driver observations.

At DD's school continual flouting of the dress code gets you expelled.

Also, I hear that the girls form a certain very posh, very selective London girls school are known by the local school boys as "the whores on the hill" - don't think I'd want my DD falling into that category. My friend drops his boy off at the school next door and he says it looks like a casting call for a porn film when the girls go in.

quoteunquote · 18/04/2013 11:59

At our local school nearly all the girls wore jeans, and trousers,and flat shoes then they introduced uniform, now most of them wear micro skirts and really inappropriate shoes,

they are meant to be a certain length, but as my friend's daughter found out, after continually called a "Nun" and more abusive comments, if you don't rase the hem you get bullied,

School uniform is creepy, controlling and damaging.

motherinferior · 18/04/2013 12:01

IME teenage boys will always find nasty things to say about girls they find a bit threatening; if it's not whores it'll be nuns. (I myself fell into the 'hideous and unshaggable' category Grin.) I'm not really going to adjust my daughters' clothing on that basis.

sweetkitty · 18/04/2013 12:02

LaQueen I'm afraid to say that even if the skirt is a kilt there are still micro mini versions.

Around here I think the idea is to have your skirt so short it's hidden by your blazer so you look as though your not wearing one and you have that attractive thigh gusset of tights showing

quoteunquote · 18/04/2013 12:05

motherinferior

sorry, it is mainly girls who are doing the name calling, which is not good.

CruCru · 18/04/2013 12:07

This is part of the reason I don't like uniform. Unless things like skirt length are enforced, it just looks tacky.