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Margaret Thatcher to get full ceremonial funeral - have they gone mad?

210 replies

rowtunda · 08/04/2013 14:31

Its bloody disgraceful - a tory/establishment decision that insults many. We should riot in the streets on the same day.

I fear becuase she had a film made about her everyone has forgetten what she actually did - including devastating whole communities - and now we are expected to stump up for her lavish funeral?

Bloody disgrace

(oh and she definietly wasn't a feminist icon either!)

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ComposHat · 08/04/2013 16:04

As far as I know, Wilson, Heath and Callaghan didn't have all this pomp and ceremony when they were buried. If she was burried quietly and at private expense no one would get worked up. But trying to present her as a unifying public figure will backfire dangerously.

She isn't a national figure, she is a partial political figure whose legacy is divisive. Organising a state/ceremonial funeral will cause a bloody big couter demonstration and rightfully so.

BangOn · 08/04/2013 16:19

Why should the OP 'show some respect'? Respect can be earned & respect can be lost. Many people lost respect for her due to her heartless neo-liberal policies and the pain, poverty & suffering he caused. Are you demanding that people feign what they simply don't & can't feel? Why?

tiggytape · 08/04/2013 16:20

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VivaLeBeaver · 08/04/2013 16:23

Do we get a day off work? That's the important question.

UptheChimney · 08/04/2013 16:25

I am waiting to hear when this will be happening and I am going to book myself a train ticket to join the protests

This.

And thanks to whoever did the link right!

LeeCoakley · 08/04/2013 16:30

According to the BBC it's not a state funeral. It will be a ceremony with full military honours like Princess Diana and the Queen Mother.

Darkesteyes · 08/04/2013 16:33

Thats only just stopping short of a state funeral.

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rowtunda · 08/04/2013 16:38

LeeCoakley - its still going to cost a bloody fortunethough - the only difference is that she won't be lying in state (they daren't do that!)

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niceguy2 · 08/04/2013 16:42

niceguy Why do you think she should be the first prime minister in 50+ years to get a state funeral?

I'm not bothered whether she gets a state funeral or not. As long as her family are happy with said arrangements then so am I.

I was referring to the idiots who are saying very nasty things about a woman who has just died.

YouTheCat · 08/04/2013 16:47

What Compo said.

paulapantsdown · 08/04/2013 16:51

So if we are paying for it, we are allowed to dance on her grave then yeah?

eatyourveg · 08/04/2013 16:55

Surely you can have a ceremonial funeral without having to drive a hearse through potentially crowd lined streets from Parliament up the Mall along the Strand transfer to a gun carriage at St Clements and carry on all the way to St Pauls?

How can they expect that to go smoothly given she was such a divisive figure - unfortunately there will always be idiots who will take advantage of the potential arena

Whats done is done and can never be undone - history books will retell it for years to come but at the end of the day, she was a frail 87yr old lady, and despite not agreeing with her policies, her family on that day deserve respect

Manchesterhistorygirl · 08/04/2013 16:58

The sinking of the Belgrano was horrible, but war is not nice and the Argentinians never have had any claim to the Falklands and they should never have invaded. For that Thatcher did the right thing.

Also look at her history re: the Cold War. Her, Gorbachev and Regan changed the political global landscape. Some of her domestic policies were terrible, as I said in the other thread, but can people please look at her whole political career and not just cherry pick the bits that suit their agenda. She was a massive global political figure.

Fwiw I took me of my local Tory councillors to task about his hijacking of the Philpott case. That is disgusting and should never have been a political football.

niceguy2 · 08/04/2013 17:09

Yep, i agree. As I just said on another thread, if you look at the UK when she came to power and again when she left, you cannot reasonably argue that the UK was worse.

Were there winners and losers? Yes of course. But that's life. The left of course hate her but no matter if you measure the UK on economic output or living standards as a nation we were much better off. Even those who hate her can't deny that.

givemeaclue · 08/04/2013 17:13

Is her son still under house arrest?

givemeaclue · 08/04/2013 17:14

No day off work. You will need to sob/celebrate depending on your views, in your own time

ThingsThatMakeYouGoHmmmmmmmmm · 08/04/2013 17:14

Hypocrisy ? The Left always show their true colours in the end.
Ad nauseam, they try to maintain their entitlement to the moral high ground. But threads and comments over the last week,with changes to benefits in the offing, have revealed a lot of unpleasant, bitter and very intolerant people. I suspect Thatchers death will be another chance for them to spew their bile. Let them. A timely reminder of the particular type Thatcher fought against.

eatyourveg · 08/04/2013 17:17

The left may hate her but Ed Milliband was still able to show respect in his comments about her - pity others can't

firesidechat · 08/04/2013 17:18

OP, you don't think Labour would have done the same thing if they were in power? They would you know.

firesidechat · 08/04/2013 17:20

Oh, and what eatyourveg said.

firesidechat · 08/04/2013 17:25

I may regret saying this, but what the heck.

I hate and detest Tony Blair with every fibre of my being. Not because he is Labour, but he has always made me feel that he couldn't be trusted. Oh and the Iraq war didn't help. But I will not be posting celebratory comments on forums when he dies.

yousankmybattleship · 08/04/2013 17:30

I agree with all those who have said that it is bloody disgrace that she gets any kind of funeral funded out of public money. I will be joining those who protest. She was a disaster for this country. Let her family grieve in private and let the rest of us just be thankful that she no longer wields any power.

comfysofas · 08/04/2013 17:32

She was a prime minister who brought this country to its knees, and some people still have not recovered from it yet.

I shall lose no sleep over her nor watch any news/documentaries or her funeral.

DisorganisednotDysfunctional · 08/04/2013 17:41

Given the level of public feeling against her I think it would be naive not to think that some sort of protest/celebration will be set up. And I would imagine the Police will be thinking the same.

Sums it up, Shesariver. I'd go. The DM has a headline I find amusing:

Lady Thatcher to be honoured with State funeral, but Palace fears there might not be enough troops to line streets of London

Fargo86 · 08/04/2013 17:45

Some very bitter people in this thread. The country was in a far better state in 1990 than it was in 1979. All of the people celebrating tonight will wake up tomorrow morning with massive hangovers and all the problems they have today will still be there tomorrow.