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Margaret Thatcher to get full ceremonial funeral - have they gone mad?

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rowtunda · 08/04/2013 14:31

Its bloody disgraceful - a tory/establishment decision that insults many. We should riot in the streets on the same day.

I fear becuase she had a film made about her everyone has forgetten what she actually did - including devastating whole communities - and now we are expected to stump up for her lavish funeral?

Bloody disgrace

(oh and she definietly wasn't a feminist icon either!)

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 08/04/2013 15:24

niceguy
Why do you think she should be the first prime minister in 50+ years to get a state funeral?

tiggytape · 08/04/2013 15:24

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timidviper · 08/04/2013 15:24

*Ironic for a politician who wanted to smash the State (together with the working class), and now her supporters want to State to pay for her funeral.

Let those who mourn her passing pay for the mourning.

Meanwhile, Not In My Name.*

Absolutely agree with this

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HelenMumsnet · 08/04/2013 15:25

Afternoon.

Just a reminder that, while we have no problems with folks expressing their strong opinions about Thatcher's funeral arrangements, we may well delete posts that are simply beyond the pale.

timidviper · 08/04/2013 15:25

Bugger failed to bold that!

.....but definitely not in my name.

BarbarianMum · 08/04/2013 15:26
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Manchesterhistorygirl · 08/04/2013 15:26

Why all the vitriol about the Falklands? I have never heard that before EVER. They are British, just as much as you or me, did they not deserve the full protection of the state then?

CheCazzo · 08/04/2013 15:27

I for one am pleased to hear that Helen. There are ways of expressing distaste without descending into the visceral hatred seen on this matter today. It lessens all of us to speak of any deceased person in that way.

thebody · 08/04/2013 15:27

I guess lots of posters don't actually remember the winter of discontent 1979 and the dreadful state of the country.

Margaret thatcher did much that was good for this country and much that wasn't.

To write her off as an 'old witch' is very childish and very offensive to women in general.

Attack her politics by all means but not her personally.

Yes op you riot. And the come back when you have actually grown up a bit.

ClaraOswald · 08/04/2013 15:27

She lived as a private citizen in recent years and should be accorded a funeral to mark that.

Private and not paid for from public funds.

LineRunner · 08/04/2013 15:29

The vitriol about the Falklands is usually about the sinking of the Belgrano. Much discussed previously on MN threads whilst Thatcher was ill.

I personally think a private funeral would be better.

gordyslovesheep · 08/04/2013 15:29

how old where you in 1979 Thebody ?

Just because Labour sanctioned it tiggy doesn't make it right

Clara I agree x

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 08/04/2013 15:35

tiggy
There is no need to shout.

I know Labour decided it. I was asking niceguy for his views because he was dismisssing every objection as left wing bile.

I don't agree with her having a ceremonial funeral any more than any other prime minister. I could see the logic with Churchill as a wartime leader who arguably changed modern history.

LadyBeagleEyes · 08/04/2013 15:40

It's totally wrong for her to have a 'ceremonial' funeral IMO.
I've said this on another thread so I'm repeating myself, but the only former PM that had the equivalent is Churchill.
This is setting a precedent, if she can have one, does that mean all our former PMs should have one?
How about Tony Blair, didn't he do 3 terms?
It's the tax payer that will be paying for it and in this economic climate with all the cuts, it sticks in my throat. I was no lover of MT and I am not gleeful over the death of an old woman
But this is wrong, let her have a private one surrounded by her loved ones, and then a memorial service for those that want to pay their respects.
That should be enough.

PipkinsPal · 08/04/2013 15:41

I don't care how they conduct her funeral but I would be mightily pissed off if they start buggering up the TV schedules by putting on Maggie programmes, especially since I've circled the programmes in my tv mag I want to watch this week Smile

thebody · 08/04/2013 15:44

I was late teens Gordy.

Don't misunderstand me I am no supporter Tory and have never voted conservative. However the country was in chaos when she came to power and it was a dreadful time,, far far worse than now.

As I said she did good and bad things but to relegate her to an old witch and heap on personal vitriol is childish and unpleasant.

Like it or not she was a world leader and a trail blazer for women.

When she entered politics in 1969 it was unusual for a woman to have her own bank account.

People forgetter don't understand how sexist the 70s was. To get to the top was a remarkable achievement for a 'wife and mother'

Shame some posters can't accept this and I think that maybe because they simply don't remember ever NOT being taken seriously as women.

My mum was a 60s libber and defiantly left of left wing but she can see how thatcher did change attitudes to women.

tiggytape · 08/04/2013 15:45

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fedupofnamechanging · 08/04/2013 15:48

thewitchisdead, so if somebody invaded Kent, you'd consider it a waste of time to defend it? The Falklands is populated by people who are British and therefore it should be defended as we would defend mainland Britain.

She had her faults, but she did defend the Falklands, when the likes of Tony Blair would probably have just given it away.

Fucking horrible user name by the way. Presume you have name changed for this thread. Think you should have the courage of your convictions and post under your 'proper' name, tbh.

Darkesteyes · 08/04/2013 15:49

Really niceguy Venom from the left??

What about the venom from the right last week towards the Daily Mail cover of the Philpott children.

The fucking hypocrisy here. Those children didnt get any respect yet the same publication will be fawning all over Thatcher.

Remember she said "there is no society" Moral here is Be careful what you wish for.

Kithulu · 08/04/2013 15:57

A better link to no state funeral for maggie petition.
For those who think money would be better spent elsewhere.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 08/04/2013 16:02

tiggy
Thanks for your answer.
I can see her importance as the first woman prime minister but I am concerned about the precedent it sets. Tony Blair having a ceremonial funeral too?

On a lighter note
I would almost support her ceremonial funeral for getting rid of school milk which I utterly detested - I still don't drink milk today decades later.

LadyBeagleEyes · 08/04/2013 16:03

Doesn't matter who made the decision though Tiggy, it was still the wrong one.
An not a wise one given the depth of feeling about her.

PeaceandFUCKINGLove · 08/04/2013 16:04

I don't give a shiny shit who decided and when, she shouldn't be having a state funeral.

I am waiting to hear when this will be happening and I am going to book myself a train ticket to join the protests.

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