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What do i do about this horrible awkward situation with Dsis best friend?

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NirvanaSmellsLikeTeenMother · 07/04/2013 14:25

Basically my Dsis and her friend (I'll call her Fiona) are 15, nearly 16. Fiona has recently started seeing one of my friends from school who is now at university and is 19(Let's call him steve)

Dsis and Fiona have gone up on the train to meet Steve and his friend a couple of times and stayed overnight. My sister was seeing Steves friend but now is not, but Fiona is still 'with' Steve.

I was not happy about this in the first place due to them only being 15. I told Dsis this but obviously she doesn't think it's weird and they carried on going up to see them so I let them get on with it. I probably shouldn't have said anything, but Steve has form for being a bit of wanker anyway and takes a lot of 'party drugs' I care very much about my Dsis and her friend so told them this.

Fiona lost her virginity to Steve and is very much 'in love' with him. Dsis told me that Fiona bled quite a lot (which I thought is fairly normal when you lose your virginity? I didn't bleed but I know it's quite common) She told me this in confidence and I have not told a soul. Fiona was extremely embarrassed about this and Dsis told me she cried.

Me and Steve are not good friends, but he is good friends with my good friends IYSWIM? And also I'll take this opportunity to tell you that I am 18, not a middle aged woman who is best friends with 18/19 year olds

Anyway, a few days ago my best friend was out for drinks with a few of ours and Steves mutual good friends and Steve himself. Steve was laughing and joking about Fiona bleeding to some of the 'lads' and showing them pictures on his phone of the blood. Our friends were not interested in this but apparently he kept going on about it.

My BF told me about this the next day and i was fuming. So was she. But we dont know what to do about it.

For now I have told my Dsis what has happened but told her to to say anything to Fiona for now, as i dont want her to be even more embarrassed about it. I also dont want her to know that all of mine and Steve's mutual friends (and who knows who else?!) know about it. I know if it was the 15 year old me in this situation I would be absolutely mortified.

I feel so sorry for her because Steve is her first 'Love' and she has been telling my sister how happy she is etc etc. i am so fucking angry at Steve, because this shows how little respect he has for this girl and how much of an absolute fucking cunt he is.

Fiona is an absolutely lovely girl and I care about her a lot. Her and my sister are extremely close so i kind of class her as a little sister aswell. She has come to me for advice before on a past relationship and i know her very well. She has no older siblings so I also think she thinks of me as a big sister figure. She is very naive especially in relationships and both her and my Dsis think they are much more grown up and mature than they actually are.

Me and my BF, a group of our mutual friends and Steve himself are due to go out in Newcastle for a night out at the weekend. I was thinking of taking him to one side under the excuse that i need a 'catch up' with him and basically telling him how much of a cunt he is and making him delete the pictures. he has a younger sister so I was going to go for the angle of 'How would you feel of someone did this to your little sister?'

I am also so fucking tempted to buy some laxatives and buy him a drink beforehand and spike it with them so he shits himself and then take pictures of him and see how he's fucking likes it. I won't, obviously unless one of you tells me it's a good idea

Should I even say anything to him? I'm not sure I could hold it in all night, especially when I've had a few drinks. I am really angry at him, but was thinking if I just stay calm and speak to him out of the way of everyone else in a blunt manner it might make the point to him and make him think about it and stop him from doing something like this again.

But I have no idea what to say or do about Fiona, it's such an awkward and horrible situation. I think I should get Dsis to talk to her but when and what does she say? I really dont want her to know that all of my friends know as sometimes my sister hangs out with Fiona at my house when my friends are there too and I dont want her to feel she can't still come round, even though she shouldn't feel that way anyway.

What do I do?

I'm going away for a bit to do some housework but I'll be back soon, any advice appreciated!

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Nerfmother · 07/04/2013 15:40

Tired - thanks.

Tiredmumno1 · 07/04/2013 15:41

Nirvana I wouldn't give him the heads up first, in case he tries thinking of how to get round her.

WeAllHaveWings · 07/04/2013 15:43

tell Fiona everything and let her make her own mind up before she gets even deeper into the relationship. Then be there to support her when she needs.

don't tell her parents, she's an adult and its up to her if she wants to share this with them. This is me speaking as a middle aged women who would still be mortified if my parents knew about my teenage "mistakes". (unless you are concerned for her wellbeing beyond a normal teenage heartbreak)

calmly tell Steve you have 0 respect for him and that everyone is talking about how much of a wanker he is for this, then leave it to sink in. Perfect a look so anytime you see him in the future it looks like a bad smell has just entered the room but say nothing more about it (good skill to learn).

Fiona will probably need some help realising she's not done anything wrong, just been naïve/misjudged someone and not to be too embarrassed, we've all been there!

NirvanaSmellsLikeTeenMother · 07/04/2013 15:44

Snooping, why shouldn't I be on mumsnet? I am a mum Hmm and I enjoy it here, it's mostly and intelligent and diverse range of people who give great advice and you get many different opinions. I actually think being on mumsnet has made me a better person and a more grown up person. I like it here and I'll stay thankyou very much Smile

So would you be a dear and 'scatter'?

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Viviennemary · 07/04/2013 15:46

Having underage sex is illegal. I do wish people would take this law breaking more seriously.

Snoopingforsoup · 07/04/2013 15:47

TiredMum - my phone did not update this thread before I posted. I read about 4 comments to suddenly find everything after I'd hit post and then apologised immediately!
We're not all hard hearted harridans!

NirvanaSmellsLikeTeenMother · 07/04/2013 15:47

X-posts again Snooping. Apology accepted.

WeAll, thanks yes I'll do that!

Good point on not telling him first actually tired, My sis is coming over tonight so I'll see if we can get Fiona to come over maybe tonight or tomorrow to speak to her before Newcastle.

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Gossipmonster · 07/04/2013 15:48

Yes because the police and social care are not at all under resourced and the time and money spent prosecuting everyone who has sex illegally in the UK could not be better spent.

Hmm
Tiredmumno1 · 07/04/2013 15:49

I know you did snooping I saw Smile

Damn x posts eh Grin

Gossipmonster · 07/04/2013 15:49

And not sure how I was rude? I said what I thought I wasn't rude?

If the OP is genuine then I apologise.

Snoopingforsoup · 07/04/2013 15:49

Nirvana, did you miss my apology or should I be on my knees?
You are clearly a lovely person, quite rightly worried for your sister and her friend.
There is a good line of solid advice from the further posts I've managed to read.
I hope Fiona sees sense! No one would want a young girl to be involved with a horrible man like that!

JulieBunnyMumsnet · 07/04/2013 15:50

Hi all,

Can we remind you of our talk guidelines? We'd also rather you reported and didn't use a thread to troll hunt.

MrsMelons · 07/04/2013 15:51

I think it was your tone - sounded like you were speaking down to people who don't agree with you. Sorry if it wasn't intended that way - I was feeling a bit defensive as its a touchy subject for me.

NirvanaSmellsLikeTeenMother · 07/04/2013 15:52

I think x posts again snooping Grin I said apology accepted! no need to be on your knees haha! Thanks very much Smile

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Gossipmonster · 07/04/2013 15:52

No I was just speaking from vast experience.

MadBraLady · 07/04/2013 15:53
Tiredmumno1 · 07/04/2013 15:53

Breathe and relax Grin

MrsBombastic · 07/04/2013 15:54

WeAllHaveWings.. Totally agree with you.

OP take note. x

Tiredmumno1 · 07/04/2013 15:54

Actually madbra maybe gin is a safer bet Grin

GlaikitFizzog · 07/04/2013 15:55

Nirvana I recognise your name more than I recognise those calling troll. Ignore them.

You sound very caring about yr dsis and Fiona. If I were you, I would sit down and speak to Fiona, calmly and grown up about relationships. Then explain. What you have been told and ask Fiona if that is the type of boy (can't call him a man, in fact boy is too good for him too) she wants to be involved with.

NirvanaSmellsLikeTeenMother · 07/04/2013 15:55

Is it too early for gin and Wine?

I think I need one after this, but ill take a [cuppa] for now thanks! Grin

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GlaikitFizzog · 07/04/2013 15:57

Many xposts there! Glad you have a plan sorted now nirvana. :)

NirvanaSmellsLikeTeenMother · 07/04/2013 16:01

Oops Brew not [cuppa]

Blush

DD has woken up from her nap now so I'll be away untill bedtime!

Think I need to organise my thoughts and what exactly I am going to do, and in what order, where and how!

Basically I'm going to speak to Fiona, then speak to Steve though. Just need to think.of what exactly to say.

Really truly, thankyou to everyone who has given me constructive advice Thanks I really appreciate it!

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Tiredmumno1 · 07/04/2013 16:02

I am the same as glaikit, I also recognise your name nirvana Smile

Schlock · 07/04/2013 16:03

If we need any proof of the OP's decency & maturity we only need to direct ourselves to the part of her OP where she mentions that she's going off to do a bit of housework. She didn't even have a strop about it!

Nirvana you sound absolutely lovely and as an ex Geordie (moved away over 20yrs ago) my advice is that when you go into Newcastle, avoid the Bigg Market. Nothing good ever happens there Wink