to feel sorry for Amanda Holden re her article about Mumsnet

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www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2305111/Why-I-hate-negative-judgmental-Mumsnet--Amanda-Holden-Britains-Got-Talent-star-accuses-site-fuelling-mothers-guilt.html

Seems to be newly posted.

I think sometimes it's forgotten that famous people are actually real people with genuine feelings.

Don't agree with her about mumsnet just being negative and judgemental all the time though, really excellent support available on here.

Hairspray?

And lots of it.

It looks so stiff and awful.

She has all those hair stylists and stuff and that is what they came up with?

I think debating her ideas/comments is fine but all the comments on her appearance are a bit Women slagging women off over their looks seems a bit Daily Mail.

Yes she should try Moroccan Oil hair spray it's gorgeous.

Why? She looks otherwise absolutely fine and I'm very glad she's stopped with the whole lip thing she used to do.

Lol,expect mn rightoners will deny any dm knowledge.they only read it in cafe,gp,somewhere else

I never read the DM. It is shite.

Ooh, Moroccan oil hairspray? Tell me more... Does it condition as well?

scottishmummy most of us right thinking people don't read it at all, even if it is free and we are bored to death

Maybe it's because I'm a WOHM, I have better things to occupy myself with than what someone looks like.

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That was a joke

Dm linked on mn daily basis,discussed despite all the never read it protests
Dm is inextricably linked to mn via daily well I vairy never posts
Seeing no one reads it mind

Bessie I think it does( would have to check )but you can put your fingers through your hair,v natural.Costs ££££ though,I'm eeeeeking my tin out.

I will have a look for it in a few months, when I am feeling flush

Why do you think it's so odd to learn about childcare from a - um - childcare professional, Square?

Incidentally, I think "mothering instincts" are just learnt behaviour from what may well have been dysfunctional relationships. Nothing there to PMSL at!

Nooo mothering instincts aren't learnt behaviour in my opinion
Look at it this way- all the other animals have these instincts, we are just another animal so why would it be different

Step, not sure it is a joke. It may well be true. I have not seen this lady ever as I don't watch television. Perhaps housewives worry about hair spray more. I have certainly been to school mothers' dinners where the women who were housewives were talking about suncream! The dullest of the dull. Another reason women should hurry back to work full time to have proper interests rather than internal house and home and looks interests like a Saudi housewife confined physically or at least mentally to home things.

I adore babies and have loved returning to work at 2 weeks (sooner with the twins as I worked for myself) and I think it was week 3 was half days with the second child and with the third it was 5 weeks or so possibly 6 but either way it worked out fine with them all, loads of cuddling, breastfeeding to well over 1 year old, love, happy family and mummy and daddy working full time. I just want people to know it is very doable and can have some wonderful results for families.

SoMsBella why are people even posting on Mumsnet if our instincts are so strong? Why are we asking for advice, at all? Animals don't.

Also, why do people have such different parenting styles? Some are happy to smack their DC; others are really against it. Some breast feed; some formula feed. Etc. Do these people have different instincts? Or do they make considered decisions to parent as they do?

Which is something other animals can't do.

You don't need training to be a mother,you just are one.

You may need advice on parenting issues but sorry training on loving,being there when your child needs you,supporting your child,protecting your child,putting your child first,wiping noses and tears no.

Also so called advice parents seek has got way out of hand,far too many parents don't trust their own instinct and buy into methods and styles like they would a new cooker.

Xenia you're still talking tosh and making up a view of sahms in your head.

Again sahm often do it for just a few years so they are the same women women working but on a break.Why anybody would discourage either parent who wants to take a relatively short career break in the interests of their children is beyond me.

Those that do it permanently and never work not even part time( I've never yet met one) will be broke and as far from your Saudi stereotype as you can get.

All SAHMs that I've met have full lives.

Sorry Xenia but Xenia " doable" is very different to real life " doable" for those in normally paid jobs without nannies,cleaners etc and who are simply aching to be with their children.

SAHM have the time for full lives and endless possibilities.

Mothering instincts are one thing, parenting is yet another.
Not to mention the fact that your mothering instincts can be super high and yet you can feel the desire of going back to work after 6 months.
I don't live in the Uk anymore so I am not up to date as to how long maternity leaves are.
I don't think there are many careers that wouldn't suffer after a 4 yrs break!
I also don't see children whose life has been messed up by their parents working full time.

Most parents of both sexes adore their children. However full time working fathers and mothers often do a better job than parents at home so never stay home because you think it is best for the children and they will thank you for it. Often it is not the best thing for the children - that is just a sexist myth to keep women down and in kitchens and women usually regret it.

Xenia sorry that is absolute rubbish.

Franca sorry as I teacher I've seen plenty.

However it varies.There is a variety of childcare options and a variety of hours worked.

Are