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AIBU to not allow DD 18 to travel on her identical twins passport ?

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seenitallbefore · 04/04/2013 21:40

She is due to travel on Monday abroad with her uni sports team . She informed me an hour ago that she can't find her passport . All family frantically searching .DH and DD driving back to her halls now for further search . DD said as leaving that if she can't find it she will use her twins. Illegal I know. Don't even know why I am posting. She will need to miss the tour won't she ?

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BrianButterfield · 04/04/2013 21:41

She won't be able to - the name on the passport has to match the name on the ticket.

You can get a replacement in person at a passport office.

MartinScorsassy · 04/04/2013 21:42

I wouldn't chance it!

BertieBotts · 04/04/2013 21:42

If she's flying she won't get away with it anyway as the booking name needs to match the one on her passport.

If you have until Monday it might be possible to get a replacement if you can get to your nearest office in time and have ££?

mamageekchic · 04/04/2013 21:42

Surely her sisters ID won't match the name on her booking?

SadOldGit · 04/04/2013 21:42

well as ticket will be in her name and passport is not she won't be able to travel on her twin's passport

PumpkinPositive · 04/04/2013 21:42

If I were her, I would do it.

What does twin say? Is she usually careless?

morethanpotatoprints · 04/04/2013 21:44

OMG YANBU

It is breaking the law and she could get in serious trouble. If she is 18 as well she is no longer a minor and will be treated more harshly.
Sorry I don't know the penalty but don't think its a slap on the wrist offence.
Ask her if its worth risking a criminal record.

Hope you find the passport soon.

MissyMooandherBeaverofSteel · 04/04/2013 21:45

You can't really stop her, she is 18. Bit of a silly idea though.

HollyBerryBush · 04/04/2013 21:46

ah but one passport looks much like another - easy mistake to make.

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seenitallbefore · 04/04/2013 21:46

She is on a bus then ferry . It looks on Passport website as if a lost passport takes a week to replace . Yes she can be careless and a bit scatterbrained. Twin very organised though . This is very stressful ...

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LadyBeagleEyes · 04/04/2013 21:51

I did this twice with my twin's passport.
The first time was when I ended up in hospital in Amsterdam and she had insurance as she'd been working and I was working illegally.
This was 30 years ago.
The second time I forgot mine for an easy jet flight and was 60 miles away from my house and staying with her overnight before I flew.
I changed the booking names (£50) and it was fine.
Better than cancelling the whole trip IMO.
Who's going to know?
Maybe it's just a twin thing, as I neve felt I was doing anything illegal.

PumpkinPositive · 04/04/2013 21:51

In that case, I would let this be a lesson to her. Nothing to say she won't lose her sister's passport too. (Did she run her intentions by her sister?)

trixymalixy · 04/04/2013 21:52

You can get a passport replaced within a day, if you can manage to get an appointment.

lougle · 04/04/2013 21:54

"Maybe it's just a twin thing, as I neve felt I was doing anything illegal."

Hmm

Wouldn't it be lovely if the courts were concerned with what we felt, LadyBeagleEyes? Grin

selsigfach · 04/04/2013 21:54

I realised I had left my passport in N Wales with a few hours to spare before flying from London. I rang up the airline to say my sister would be taking my space and paid £30 to change names then flew with her passport. Might be an easier way to get around it, so long as it's not a chipped/eye recognition one.

meditrina · 04/04/2013 21:57

I think it would be wrong.

But as she's 18, it's up to her whether she breaks the law and risks a criminal (?) record. But if she attempts it, she will need to explain away the non-matching name, not just to the carrier, but also her team mates and coach. Who made the flight booking? Will the change of name be obvious to that person? Is it fair to make them an accessory to the deception?

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seenitallbefore · 04/04/2013 21:58

Can you Trixy ? That's encouraging . That sounds like a plan . She can phone first thing tomorrow and hopefully they will see her. You are all right. Too serious an offence to take a risk. Though they went away with their school at aged 14 and flew home from Morocco on each others passports as a "joke" . Obviously I failed to impress on them at the time that that was so stupid. I didn't laugh though ... Not a clever twin trick.

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TheChaoGoesMu · 04/04/2013 21:58

How will she do it if the ticket name is not the same? Change the ticket name? Is it possible?

SminkoPinko · 04/04/2013 21:59

Must be tempting! But yes, probably not a good idea as fraud etc etc.

missingmumxox · 04/04/2013 21:59

No she can go to the passport office tomorrow and queue up at 8am, my poor Dh had to do this when I lost our DT's passport and mine in a house move and discovered 2 days before the we where due to leave I discovered they where missing.
by coincidence the person in front of him to pick up in the afternoon also had year old twins, ours where 7 months and they got chatting, when the other chap got to the window, he said, you have put the wrong pictures on the passports, and was told, think very carefully before you answer sir, are you sure that the pictures are incorrect? he said yes the person asked for them back and said, I am sorry sir I can not issue with this passports and the office has closed for processing today. the chap was devastated, when DH when up he just took the passports looked at them quickly and said that they where correct, he said he only checked in case my picture was on one of the babies...then obviously all beats where off, he only checked properly outside, they where correct, but they take it seriously for babies imagine if she gets caught?

LynetteScavo · 04/04/2013 22:00

As a mother I wouldn't allow it (what if she get stopped by the police for something, and they think she is her sister...could get very messy). But she is 18, and her sister is 18, so I'm not sure you can stop them. I take it you are funding the tour, though...?

ZZZenagain · 04/04/2013 22:01

she's not flying, bus and ferry.

LynetteScavo · 04/04/2013 22:03

Flying back together on each others passports is a lot less risky though...unless the plain goes down and one twin survives, and the other doesn't...sorry, I tend to pee DH off with always thinking the worst.

I'll shut up now.

missingmumxox · 04/04/2013 22:04

Don't phone the London office always say they are too busy, My DH went to Glasgow from Kent! (they where lovely apparently) and then found out that this is the stock reaction by London, by people we now who fly more frequently than we do (and clearly are more forgetful then me), on another note my passport when through a washing machine on holiday caused me a lot of grief on the way back into the UK and this was long before Sept 11.

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seenitallbefore · 04/04/2013 22:07

I can stop her . She's 18 but not much of a rebel yet. What LadyBeagles says is right I think . she doesn't see it as a huge legal problem as its her twins passport and they are always mistaken for each other anyway. But no excuses. She can't do it . Silly girl .

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