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Are SAHMS discriminated against. Red magazine are doing an article about it.

999 replies

Darkesteyes · 25/03/2013 16:58

Just seen this on twitter.

Are stay at home mums discriminated against? Are you one and unhappy with benefits, or feel judged? Tell us.
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stepawayfromthescreen · 28/03/2013 23:21

Aha! So if a sahm wants support she's a moany old bag, but if a wohm seeks support, she's struggling and in need of sympathy?
Thanks for underlining in BOLD exactly what it is you actually think.

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:22

They hen pay taxes and spend their earnings and so on and so forth.. Quite logical really. Not rocket science..

stepawayfromthescreen · 28/03/2013 23:22

where did you pop up from Permanetly?

janey68 · 28/03/2013 23:23

Oh and a woman whose child is unfortunately picking up all sorts of illnesses step aside. She's asking if others have experienced the same thing. Don't see any whining there

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:24

Step - before I go to bed. Why does a SAHM need child care costs? I really don't get it.

ihategeorgeosborne · 28/03/2013 23:24

Little, why would you mind helping with childcare if he earned 40k and I earned 20k? Wouldn't all families earning this income be entitled to child care help under these proposals. Why does he have to earn 60k and me earn 20k?

Permanentlyexhausted · 28/03/2013 23:26

Not at all Stepaway. The subject is everything here.

Someone genuinely struggling with their life and looking for advice and support = fine.
Someone whinging that they aren't valued and appreciated by every sector of society just for living their life = not okay.

I doubt you'll understand though.

maisiejoe123 · 28/03/2013 23:27

Someone will say in a minute - you know its not all about money you know and what you ACTUALLY put in!

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:27

Like I said before. Don't mind helping any working parents with childcre if they need it to support them stay employed. Regardless of wage. It could be £10k or £70k. But I don't see why I should pay tax for a SAHMs child care costs... Why do thy need it?

morethanpotatoprints · 28/03/2013 23:27

Happymummyofone

Its exactly the same wohm's will still say it comes from their taxes and they are paying for a sahm. Unless I am wrong and they will be funded from somewhere else.

So my question really was can all wohm's on here come to an agreement as to whether a sahm is paid.
If so then the comments about "if a sahm is paid then I will put in a bill for parenting" is futile as they clearly can't do that Confused

ihategeorgeosborne · 28/03/2013 23:28

Some very rude, patronising and condescending posts on here from WOHM.

stepawayfromthescreen · 28/03/2013 23:28

I don't think sahm's should 'get childcare costs'
I do think nay, know discrimination towards sahm's is real.
Someone asked me at a party quite recently 'don't you get bored?' when I explained that I was a sahm.
If I'd asked her (and it's always a her, their husbands generally don't give a fuck about this divisive nonsense) 'don't you feel really guilty leaving your baby?' she'd probably have felt discriminated against.

Permanentlyexhausted · 28/03/2013 23:29

Where did I pop up from?

Well it's taken me a while to catch up since last night / the early hours of this morning - there's nearly 18 pages of debate to be considered! Terrible, I know, but I've been on a day out with my family all day so this is the first opportunity I've had to see what's been going on.

scottishmummy · 28/03/2013 23:30

Occupation is a job with defined terms,understood definition,and defined role
Parent is highly individual,done to own standard not an occupation

morethanpotatoprints · 28/03/2013 23:30

maisiejoe

to me it isn't about money, as long as we have enough to get by, I couldn't give a shit where it comes from tbh. I don't care if I never put anything in again, in fact I probably will indirectly as most things are taxed anyway.

stepawayfromthescreen · 28/03/2013 23:30

Someone genuinely struggling with their life and looking for advice and support = fine.
Someone whinging that they aren't valued and appreciated by every sector of society just for living their life = not okay

1)Hypocrisy 2) Double standards 3) Wilful ignorance.
That's all.
Good night.

janey68 · 28/03/2013 23:31

I wouldn't feel in the least bit discriminated against if someone was rude enough to ask me if I felt guilty using childcare. I'd assume they had their own issues

maisiejoe123 · 28/03/2013 23:31

Yes, why do SAHP's need childcare costs....

scottishmummy · 28/03/2013 23:32

George,let's acknowledge the rude,patronizing,housewife at least I see kids posts

janey68 · 28/03/2013 23:33

SAHM don't need childcare costs. They just don't seem to like other people getting it.

ihategeorgeosborne · 28/03/2013 23:33

I know what you mean stepaway. I have a friend who often says "when are you going back to work then George?" If I was to dare to say to her, "when do you think you'll be looking after your own children?", she'd be bloody cross. Quite right too, as it would be a really rude thing to say. In the same way that asking that question in an accusatory tone is very rude when the SAHP is faced with it.

janey68 · 28/03/2013 23:34

I notice stepaside has stepped off to bed without specifying which part of my recruitment process is discriminatory..

morethanpotatoprints · 28/03/2013 23:35

*scottish8

Ok according to your usual suggestions

understood definition - housewife,
defined role - serving wage slave, childcare, domestic cleaning, cooking.
defined terms - drudgery, reliant on wage slave

ihategeorgeosborne · 28/03/2013 23:36

Sorry, don't get you Scottish?

janey68 · 28/03/2013 23:36

If you SAHM are really getting those sort of comments in RL I suggest you go to different parties and socialise in different circles. I've never experienced in RL anyone making these sort of rude conments