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Are SAHMS discriminated against. Red magazine are doing an article about it.

999 replies

Darkesteyes · 25/03/2013 16:58

Just seen this on twitter.

Are stay at home mums discriminated against? Are you one and unhappy with benefits, or feel judged? Tell us.
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maisiejoe123 · 28/03/2013 23:03

Something to bear in mind when those SAHP's class themselves as tax payers and a unit. What if you split up?

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:03

Ecconomics argument doesn't stack up

Please explain why it doesn't add up?

stepawayfromthescreen · 28/03/2013 23:03

good advice ihategeorgeosbourne!
chickpea, I can't believe I wasted 30 seconds to paste this, but here you go:
oc·cu·pa·tion
[ok-yuh-pey-shuhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person's usual or principal work or business, especially as a means of earning a living; vocation: Her occupation was dentistry.
2.
any activity in which a person is engaged.
3.
possession, settlement, or use of land or property.
4.
the act of occupying.
5.
the state of being occupied.

Sahm would be number 2, in case you're interested.

HappyMummyOfOne · 28/03/2013 23:04

Morethan, its two different conversations.

Some want a new allowance to be created for choosing to not work, some want free childcare despite no need for it given they dont work.

The SAHPs other tax payers pay for are those households that claim benefits as one adult chooses not to work (or where a single adult does not work) where the household income through wages does not actually allow them too. Hence UC is ensuring all adults work if they need on welfare so as not to penalise those that self support.

stepawayfromthescreen · 28/03/2013 23:05

I must now hide and disengage from the wonderful world of willful ignorance.

mirry2 · 28/03/2013 23:05

stepaway-I don't think that at all. I know very well that most don't have wealthy husbands. however it seems to me that most of the sahm posts are about lack of monetory reward.

Anyway this has been a very interesting discussion but I'm off to bed. Happy debating, the rest of you and don't get too worked up. It's not worth it.

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:05

Well if you are at home getting benefits then yes tax payers are paying for you.

janey68 · 28/03/2013 23:07

I don't think all SAHM are necessarily wealthy, but I do wonder why they seem to complain about their lot so much. I can't recall any threads started by WOHM bemoaning their lives

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:07

Step that's ridiculous. Catching, straws comes to mind...

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:07

That should be clutching.....

ihategeorgeosborne · 28/03/2013 23:07

Agree happy, there is definitely something more sinister going on here. When the figures don't stack up, i.e. if dh and I split his current salary between us through both of us earning, we would pay less tax, get child benefit and child care help. We would be more of a drain on the economy than we are now with one higher rate tax payer. There is definitely something unpleasant going on here..........Hmm

stepawayfromthescreen · 28/03/2013 23:08

I can't recall any threads started by WOHM bemoaning their lives

there have been literally dozens and dozens.
Have a look at the 'back to work' forum, for starters.

Sheesh.

stepawayfromthescreen · 28/03/2013 23:10

chickpea, you do understand that the word 'occupation' means other things, apart from 'the paid job/profession what I do' etc, right?

janey68 · 28/03/2013 23:11

Could you link to the dozens and dozens?

ihategeorgeosborne · 28/03/2013 23:14

chickpea, you still haven't explained how we would be of more benefit to the economy if dh stopped earning his nearly 60k and I earned 20 and he earned 40?

stepawayfromthescreen · 28/03/2013 23:15

many threads like this one:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/going_back_to_work/1712141-Being-a-working-mum-how-does-it-not-tear-your-emotions-apart

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:16

Step... Come on.. You are stretching it and it will never wash... It's not n occupation...

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:17

ihate you are adding to the ecconomic cash flow.

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:19

Ihate why would he stop earning £60k? Why ant you just go earn £20k? And we don't mind helping with childcre them...

ihategeorgeosborne · 28/03/2013 23:20

Not necessarily Little, we would pay less to the exchequer and get more back in benefits. We might decide to save any extra and not spend due to economic uncertainty.

janey68 · 28/03/2013 23:20

What- a thread from a woman struggling back at work and wanting some support, step aside? I don't see anything self pitying and woe is me there- just a woman posting for support. Hardly comparable to the whining on here about imagined discrimination, usually coming from women who aren't even applying for jobs so have no recent interview experience anyway !

maisiejoe123 · 28/03/2013 23:20

If you afford to stay home and look after the children you have chosen - good for you. However someone is paying tax credits, CB in certain lower paid house holds etc. That someone is the rest of us. I suspect no SAHP by defination can do more years than I will do paying tax and NI.

Don't count your partners as being your share. I am not counting mine.

Any takers?

Permanentlyexhausted · 28/03/2013 23:21

You are not painting yourself in a particularly good light, Stepaway. I would stop now before you do yourself a damage.

LittleChickpea · 28/03/2013 23:21

But you would be paying into childcre thus supporting someone's employment.... Why don't you read my ecconomic note a couple pages back...