To ask for one, simple, summary about all the angry SAHM threads.

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Pleaseeee??

I haven't read them all - but there seem to be lots of SAHMs on here today, moaning that they won't eat help with child are costs.

Eh?

Have I missed some key piece of information? Have a got it wrong?

Surely the whole point of being a SAHP is so that you don't need childcare?..

I find it odd that Xenia with all her power and supposed successful exciting life wastes so much time on the internet contributing to a chat site. I love MN but it is a massive time-sucking waste of energy. Nobody I know who has a genuinely successful and satisfying career and life spends much time on mn, and certainly not enough to unfailingly zero in on every single sodding WOHM/SAHM thread in order to sling a few insults about. I, on the other hand, don't have a satisfying career or life right now, which is why I piss about on here so much right now. When I'm happier and busier I don't come near the place:)

TBH I think thats a bit unfair. For all her success Xenia is just another woman, with most of the same reasons she comes on here as all of us.

I kind of think some people just need to communicate and whatever reason, sometimes theres no one there but the internet.

I like Xenia's contribution.

Agree with wallinson on quite few things.

now days if go uni you need a masters or phd to get ahead which is lengthy and costly so mostly people with rich families.

Same as top internships slave labour in the city depends on wealthy parents.

Most of my uni freinds dont have fab jobs., living, inflation.is way higher than wages and the economy is shrinking as well as in private sector they decreasing public sector as lot of jobs in wales and north were created by labour,

Now we have work fare and so many people chasing each job.
Manufacturings sector affected by strength of currency and avaialibility of lending.As the banks now overly cautious.

so if theres no primary and secondry industries.
we relied to much on tertiary ie services, admin, call centred, banking and retail all of which are shrinking.

I know so many unemployed primary teachers as thats seen as good job pro rata many job share, term time only, great benefits.

The problem with uk is cost of housing, living and inflation is higher than wages and childcare most expensive in europe as we refuse to subsidise it in way other countries have.

I like xenia sure she has some odd veiws but has had her share of bad times , worked hard and done well for herself she never gives up and thats what you need in today,s job market drive, ambition, determination and no matter how many knock backs keep on.

i think cost higher education is mad now.

I wouldent know what to suggest to school leaver now.

My son is 18 and has just left his A level course, he will complete 1 AS level resit.
I am pleased he has finally done this as he wouldn't listen blar blar and has realised its not for him.
2 days ago he walked into town and an hour later has come back with a job in a call centre. Ok, not a fantastic career, but he is a good communicator, so who knows where this could lead.
I think I would tell any young person to do whats right for them, not whats expected.

Xenia, is fine and entitled to her opinion. I rarely agree with her but certainly admire her determination and strength of character.

good on him morethan!

ssd.

I am so happy for him, and proud. He was always a bit odd, very bright but didn't reach his full potential. He has been hard work and finally diagnosed with Aspergers last year. I love him dearly but was really worried what would become of him. Just goes to prove there is hope for anyone. Apparently at interview they said he had good social skills and was a good communicator. I asked if he'd checked they had the right candidate

I think deliberately using the term housewife to describe SAHMs when you know most SAHMs find the term insulting and defamatory is not fine. It's one thing to have an opinion, it's another to deliberately set out to goad and insult.

I admit I'm going partly on what I've read from Xenia on other threads. But if you're going to set up a stall which repeatedly condemns other women's life choices as dull-minded and uninteresting at best, and dangerous at worst, then you need to have your own house in order. Xenia no more has her house in order than any of the rest of us on here. I was pointing out that in such circumstances, sneering at SAHMS and calling them ill-educated and gin-soaked housewives is a bit rich, really.

morethan -

impecunious - fair enough