Angry another attack on sahm mum!

[mam29]

I was worried about new childcare arrangements and its got high limit earn up to 150k but both parents have to be working.

Im guessing from this article the current childcare voucher scheme being phased out

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-21833929

where exactly are these term time jobs and cheap flexible childcare.

where are all these jobs that dont seem to require person to be fully flexible.

had 1st in 2006 went back full time when she was one in 2007.
fulltime place 52weeks nursery was 9000 a year you can claim relief up to 6k.

used vouchers

quit work after no 2 used vouchers for preschool education who had reduced to 1day a week doing nursery.

child no 2 started 1day a week from 18months and nursery been really good for her development. its £40 a day so 160 on 4week month.

husband used couchers as he works fulltime saves us a little.

child 2 now gets 15hour funding which helps.

was hoping to start child no 3 and use childcare vouchers now looks like cant do that and might have to wait until fnding term after 3rd birthday which think is bit late.

To make matters worse child no 2 has september birthday so missed this sept school year by 16days so have year extra paying childcare.

we lucky we dident lose child benefit as at moment we below 50k
we lost £10 a week childcare tax credits last april.

feel sorry for sahm mum whos husnand earns over 50k loses cb and now childcare vouchers yet they say preschool education is important and good for educational outcomes.

we very much feeling squeezed middle tonight as we just about get by each month as we privatly rent too.

Yawn.has any mentioned giving it all up to raise own kids,why have em to let strangers raise

when will you mention precious moments am waiting

anyhow yer teams gettin gubbed

May I throw in the word "orphanages"?

SAHP's don't need child care , but neither do wealthy dual income families.

Another realistic scenario here might be the higher rate tax paying parent gets made redundant. If the other parent works, surely they will need some childcare to find their next job. After all, they've been paying shed loads of tax for years. Why should that tap suddenly be turned off for them now, particularly at a time when they would be in greatest need.

I'm no biting,you're too obvious

I have never slated childcare, I have had to use it myself
but I have managed teams of women and most of them rely on family for childcare. It might be because it's lower paid, local work though. But surely any help in childcare should be directed at these women?

fine suit yersel

Just playing along with you :) on this topic I tend to agree with you

Mam - how can you say that lots of middle class Mums dont need a 2nd income. How can you judge that. Maybe you would like to judge me. I work to opt out of the state system because the options dont work for us. I dont expect others to pay for that choice.

What is so wrong with that. People work for all sorts of reasons. To gain independence and not necessarily rely on their partner.

Maisiejoe - you sound very unhappy and bitter

Yes I have no problem with working families receiving subsidised child are. But it needs to be targeted. At the moment it seems that rich dual earning families are benefiting while lower earning families with a sahp are the one making the sacrifice

god everyone thinks they are middle class these days anyway, how do most people define it?

yes i am sick of football

Fine ah Ken,I might bite for bit biddulph

And what is wealthy. In London the average house price for a semi is £450k. Who are we to judge.

Biddulph being the one who said children were scarred for life by being away from their mothers for any more than twenty minuts under the age of five? Ok I paraphrase bu it was something like that

Yes owllady, me too. 8, 0, apparently, what ever that means

canny be arsed with him, too much effort for me

well the footies nearly finished, we're getting beat but at least we're playin a real team

Unhappy and bitter about what? I am more than happy with my choices.

So you agree then maisiejoe, that a single income family on 50k in London are not wealthy enough to lose child benefit?

An interesting observation: there are always some women on these threads who claim that they 'have' to stay home to support their high earning husband. They have to run the house, do x, y and z and basically there's no way they can possibly work because their dh is such a high flier, and isn't it unfair that they lose out on CB etc
Yet these same women are belly aching about families where both parents earn good incomes and still retain some benefits. Doesn't it occur to them that actually, these families are juggling all the things the SAHM in the earlier scenario are doing, but with a shed load MORE expense and a shed load LESS time. Childcare, commute.... And they are going to be contributing a hell
Of a lot more than they're taking out of the pot anyway.
It does seem a bit ironic that some mums honestly believe life with a good earning husband necessitates them being at home because it's all
So diffiicult, but begrudge families where BOTH parents are in this type of job a bit of a break

i have said to my son, who has lost interest and is playing with the dog, 'i bet you wish every england game was like this' and well apparently not because he is bored

Biddulph came on mn got a total pasting.the child care damages dem brains

Also, maisiejoe, has it never occurred to you that dual income rich families are part of the reason house prices are catastrophic. It just adds more fuel to the fire if you ask me.

tbh it is difficult for me and i wish I could work. I don't stay at home for my husband, i stay at home for my daughter