To think it is ridiculous that a woman with 11 kids is getting a £400,000 house for nowt

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Especially when most working people couldn't never afford to live somewhere costing that much?
Link: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280385/Home-fit-dole-queen-Mother-11-gets-BRAND-NEW-400-000-house-built-council-shes-struggling-current-homes.html

'The current chairman of the Daily Mail, Jonathan Harmsworth is a billionaire who pays no taxes in the UK.'

That sounds like a worthy campaign AKiss. Lets get some tax off Mr Harmsworth - who incidentally sounds like a Dicken's character - and offset the cost of the house.

Just because someone is greedy and entitled does not make them any less a victim. No young female child brought up in a loving family that places a high emphasis on her physical and emotional wellbeing and encourages her to do well at education is going to grow up with the ambition of getting pregnant at 14 just to get a council house.

Squeaky - those 'choices' made by teenaged girls were likely to be the product of grooming

secret it is NOT because of women like this that there is 'less in the pot' for carers or people with disabilities!

That is what they want you to think.

there are free places for some under 2's from deprived social backgrounds - which is designed to tackle social deprivation through early education

There is also Care to Learn which provides free child care to under 21's who are parents to enable them to continue in education - again designed to address the disadvantages faced by many young parents how have not had access to 'normal' pre and post 16 options

Dickens'

BonyBack, a 23 year old having sex with a 13 year old is in no way abusive? Really?

Yep, the clown car comment threw me until I read A common example of such a routine involves an implausibly large number of clowns emerging from a very small car, to humorous effect

Amber You are completely right. If there was less families like this then there would be no difference to what other people recieve.

Oh for crying out loud. If you honestly think people on benefits live the life of luxury try it for yourself.

These scroungers, I don't know, they'll be wanting clothes next.

So do some of you think the Welfare state should provide meals out, days out, a car? fags? Really? You actually think that's what it is for? You think that supports and encourages healthy people to make good lifestyle choices, to work, to better themselves? To create a role model for their children, to raise their self esteem?

There are actually very few families like this.

Impossible to blame them for all the cruel and unnecessary cuts. But the right wing media will give it a go anyway.

meals out, days out [that cost] cars? no sorry not in my experience.

The welfare state does not provide for those at all.

no the children of people on benefits should go up chimneys to but clothes obviously

The thing is some people on benefits do live the life of luxury. Not most, but some. Unfortunately I know of some such people and it narks me. I'd be lying if I said it didn't.

"Squeaky - those 'choices' made by teenaged girls were likely to be the product of grooming"

hahaha... yeah ok... if you say so..

I went to school with plenty of them.. believe me, they were not groomed.

I grew up in a deprived northern working class town, a world away from middle class suburbia and pony clubs or tennis lessons. By the time they were 14, the only interest most of the girls had was to be out on the pull, no fake id needed back then to get into the pubs.. and they didnt want to be with boys their own age who had no money, they were after the older lads.

buy - bleeding fingers

HOHoho No one on benefits lives the life of luxury, if you think that then your standards are sadly very low

Yes secret. We're still being screwed, though.

McVey herself freely admits that even in the case of Carers work should still pay more.

I'd like to see her work around my care responsibilities then say that. They KNOW Carers save the taxpayer money but still want to screw them.

Back to the OP. The woman in this article has made incredibly poor choices for whatever reason. I do not feel that punishing her offspring for existing is the solution. As I said earlier.

randall do you live in a £400 000 six bed house for free ? No? Does anyone here working full time live in one? . Because that's not AT ALL luxurious, is it?

I'm just wondering where families who are housed in B & B accommodation with no cooking facilities, are supposed to eat, other than out.

I think I must have grown up with Squeaky

Amber - but there is a limit to what is in the pot, isn't there? Maybe there wouldn't be a massive difference to what people receive as individuals, but I am thinking more in terms of things like waiting lists and nurses and midwives and the like.

Randall - again, major difference between "lap of luxury" and "more than adequate." Of course clothing is going to be needed but designer clothes and shoes aren't (for example.)

I keep saying it but ... I agree with Maud!

11 kids! x million

I have exactly 10 fewer kids and I'm EXHAUSTED!!!!

So you think its the sign of a normal healthy 14 yr old to be out seeking sex with men?