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to wonder WTF would it take for people stop eating "meat"

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ElenorRigby · 13/02/2013 18:33

Just that really!

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TheOriginalLadyFT · 15/02/2013 11:44

Indeed hully

Sugar - crack cocaine of the food world

SonOfAradia · 15/02/2013 11:51

I should probably stuff myself with both, then. My cholesterol level is below normal (2.3) and that can cause health problems in itself Smile

Liza80 · 15/02/2013 11:58

I should probably stuff myself with both, then.

With sugar and crack cocaine?? Shock

SonOfAradia · 15/02/2013 11:59

Hehe, no, sugar and processed carbs Grin

Liza80 · 15/02/2013 12:08

Haha Grin

exoticfruits · 15/02/2013 12:09

My local butcher had double his usual number of customers yesterday. People are not giving up-they are changing where they buy it.

Liza80 · 15/02/2013 12:12

That's a really positive change exoticfruits! Smile

Jux · 15/02/2013 12:36

Fascicle, TG's books are far from romantic. Her book explicitly about livestock handling is this one, but you may find that another, more general book, like Animals in Translation, more readable. It is more general, focusses more on her life and how she sees things, as she believes that her perceptions work more like an animal's. It does include quite a bit about how sh saw better ways of designing abbatoirs, which led to an overhaul throughout USA, and some in UK have followed suit. Both are fascinating reads. (All her books that I have read are fascinating, but I am very interested in autism, so come at them from that angle.)

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ElenorRigby · 15/02/2013 12:41

Agree with hully sugar is terrible stuff!

Just heard from Andrew Neil on the Daily Politics, horse meat has been found in school meals in Lancashire

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ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath · 15/02/2013 13:03

I am a veggie and have been since the age of 4, I don't think of meat as food so it's not a conscious decision for me. Of course I agree with fair treatment of all animals but where do you draw the line? Have you ever squatted a fly? Trodden on a spider? That's not exactly fair.

Not sure what point I'm trying to make so will hand out Soylent Green to all meat eaters as an amuse bouche.

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ElenorRigby · 15/02/2013 13:10

Yum Soylent Green!

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ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath · 15/02/2013 13:11

Maybe that's the tipping point Elenor?

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ElenorRigby · 15/02/2013 13:39

Nah people who "love" their meat will never stop eating it.
Why did you become a veggie aged 4 btw?

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SonOfAradia · 15/02/2013 13:55

I certainly won't stop eating meat because horse meat has been found in Lancashire! I'll certainly be making more use of the local butchers rather than Tesco, though.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath · 15/02/2013 13:56

My parents turned veggie then and although I was given the option of eating meat (they still cooked it for DB) I just never fancied it. I rebelled at age 12 with a Big Mac but I couldn't even finish it, it was foul! Grin
Never had cow's milk either but only because I hate it (and cream etc).

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ElenorRigby · 15/02/2013 14:07

SonofAradia I started this thread in amused exasperation wtf would it take!

I stopped eating meat way back in 1986 when the BSE scandal broke people didn't stop eating it then and I knew they wouldn't now.

Personally I find the thought of eating meat abhorrent others for reasons I've never really understood find it acceptable or even preferable. Leaves me blooming wondering if it's addictive or something lol.

So there we have a difference of opinion. I think people are getting more comfortable with that difference in opinion now whereas veggies and meat eaters used to really poles apart and not even open to discussion or understanding.

It was good to see interesting discussions from this thread.

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TheOriginalLadyFT · 15/02/2013 14:08

Dsis is a veggie - she never liked the taste or texture of meat, even as a very small child. I think some people just don't like it in the way others don't like certain veg, or fish etc

Personally, eating raw tomatoes makes me vomit. Just thinking about putting one in my mouth and biting into it makes me

Daddelion · 15/02/2013 14:12

When historians look at this period, the mass breeding of animals, killing and turning into processed food I wonder what they'll make of it and how future generations will see it.

Of course this'll be after the great discovery of 2140 that pigs and cows can talk.

SonOfAradia · 15/02/2013 14:44

SonofAradia I started this thread in amused exasperation wtf would it take!

I know and reading the discussion has been great. It's been really civil for the most part.

I can't think of anything that'd stop me eating meat - certainly this horse thing hasn't even made me consider it for a moment. It doesn't bother me that it's horse (eaten it before), but the fact that it could be dodgy/adulterated in some way does.

Even if the mass-produced/foreign sourced stuff became completely screwed up, there'd always be local suppliers, so I'd never actually give up.

exoticfruits · 15/02/2013 16:18

Do you eat dairy products though, EleanorRigby? A clean death seems much better to me that the treatment of the cow and calf in dairy production.
In answer to the question - I can't see anything to make me give up meat.

exoticfruits · 15/02/2013 16:22

I would hate to see rare farm animals confined to farm parks as oddities Daddelion. I also wonder how they will keep landscapes like the Lake District without grazing sheep ( and if they want the wool what they do with dead bodies). What will the dogs and cats eat?

Liza80 · 15/02/2013 17:28

"Of course I agree with fair treatment of all animals but where do you draw the line? Have you ever squatted a fly? Trodden on a spider? That's not exactly fair."

I don't kill anything, even though spiders freak me out and fly's annoy the hell out of me!!! I catch them and release them outside.
The only time I would purposefully kill any living creature is if it is a direct threat to my health/safety and there is no other option!
As a rule I try to treat others as I would want to be treated.

Live and let live! Smile

Daddelion · 15/02/2013 17:43

I want to know how cats and dogs have managed to shift the attention to the other animals. Rabbits have done a fair job as well.

Pigs, cows and sheep need a better PR representative.

On my journey to vegetarianism it was watching 20 or so lambs being rounded up, removed from their mothers and taken off for slaughter. I couldn't eat lamb after that.

Lambs are cute, baby animals their PR is really crap.

Liza80 · 15/02/2013 17:52

LOL Daddelion! That reminds me of one of my favourite stand up shows, Dennis Leary...

He is actually taking the piss out of vegetarians, but he makes some good points which also apply to many meat-eaters! :)

BlatantLies · 15/02/2013 18:29

I think it must be hard work if you choose to be a really strict veggie. There are so many things with animal byproducts in them. I suppose you get used to it.

My DM used to have vagen lodgers, it looked a complicated way to live.

I don't eat messed about with meat so the BSE scandal and this latest horse scandal don't effect me.

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