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AIBU?

To say he can't go to stag do if there are going to be strippers?

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DelphineD · 09/02/2013 23:10

I'm sorry if this ends up being long; I will try to keep it as concise as possible.

Last year DP went to a stag do (first one that has come up whilst we have been together). It was one of his closest friends, and one that I previously liked and respected. They were away for 2 nights. I had wondered if some sort of strip thing might be involved but I thought probably not as the friend was not that kind of man and DP assured me when he got back that there was nothing of the kind. I later found out (through my scarily good investigation and interrogation!!) that this was not the case. On the first night they had been to a strip club and on the second night there were topless waitresses at their apartment for about 3 hours. This info came out bit by bit. Each time DP would insist there was nothing more to tell, then I found out something else. Eventually I think I got a full confession out of him but it was difficult to be sure as he had lied so many times about it. I also got out of him that there had been topless waitresses at a work party he had attended some time before (I had suspected something wrong and he had always denied it before.) He claimed all this was not of his doing, it was not really of interest to him and he just went along with it because they were in a group and he didn't want to make a fuss etc etc. If he had had a lap dance, I would have broken up with him (friend had a lap dance and the man has gone down a lot in my estimation.) As it was I nearly broke up with him anyway. He knew how much I hated strippers and how I would feel about it, and he did it anyway. But I think the most damaging thing was the lying. I trusted him before, and he had destroyed all that.

We got over it and agreed that if there was anything like this again he would tell me the truth and face the music. He understands how much more damaging it was that he lied about it. Since then, I have been to a work party where there was a male stripper. I didn't know in advance but I did know once I got there and I could have come home. It seemed a bit hypocritical, but I went anyway. I just sat at the back, while some of the married women in my group, went up on stage, straddled the stripper, took their wedding rings off, etc etc. That made me think that I wasn't so worried about DP being present in a large room where women were stripping, it was how he behaved and the interaction that would bother me. Hence why I was more upset about the topless women in the apartment than the ones in the strip club. FWIW I believe he would have behaved in a similar way to me in his situation. But his friend having that lap dance upset me, and made me think you can't trust any man, even the ones who seem nice and like they really love their partners.

Now he has his DB's stag party coming up. It's in the city where we live, but some people will be coming from elsewhere so there will be an apartment rented again. He has said he will tell the truth about it this time. He has admitted that the best man is planning something to do with strippers but nothing is booked in yet. I'm already feeling upset about it already and I just don't want him to be around strippers at all. WIBU to say, if that is happening, I don't want you to go at all?

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MechanicalTheatre · 10/02/2013 09:56

Ashoething I know, I'm actually shocked.

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SirBoobAlot · 10/02/2013 10:06

Ashoething, was wondering just the same.

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seeker · 10/02/2013 10:12

It's depressing that so many women are so insecure that they have to pretend it's OK for men to go in for this sort of crap.

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eggsy11 · 10/02/2013 10:12

No way on earth would DP be going if there was strippers! If he'd lied about it before I'd be fuming!!! But having topless waitresses at their rented apartment??? That is awful!

Its not that I don't trust him at all. I have affriend who works on babe station type website and the way she speaks about the men makes me feel sick. Desperate, lecherous. I would HATE to think of my do as one of those guys!

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seeker · 10/02/2013 10:14

It's not about letting him go. A man worth forming an adult relationship with wouldn't want to!

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AllYoursBabooshka · 10/02/2013 10:19

He's hardly the poor put upon man because his partner doesn't want him to go look at naked women.

It really baffles me how it can go from being completely unacceptable (as in Janet from his work decides to strip on his desk and stick her breasts in his face) to perfectly fine because

A) He pays for it
B) He will miss the party otherwise (now remember, we are talking about a grown up here.)

I don't see how it is uptight to have an issue with this and to let your DP know that it's not something you are willing to put up with, whether it's Janet from work or a stripper at a stag do.

I also think what OP meant by "Face the music" is that if he chooses to do it regardless then that would be the end of their relationship. It's not her being "controlling" to make this clear, it just means that she is treating him like an adult with choices.

I couldn't be with a man who would risk our relationship for fear of looking "under the thumb" (regardless of how he feels) in front of his mates. I prefer people with a little back bone and individual courage rather than a ovine coward.

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AllYoursBabooshka · 10/02/2013 10:21

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IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou · 10/02/2013 10:22

I hate strippers as an entertainment and have avoided hen parties, or that section of the party if there was going to be strippers. There is no way in the world I would miss one of my sister's hen parties though. I don't think DH would feel threatened by it. I think there is something deeply unsexual about it considering what it is. I wouldn't want DH to go to a lapdancing club etc because of a feminist slant but I don't think it's cheating or a threat to the way he views me. I think if he was going to cheat it would be with someone at work or someone he met in a club or something.

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IThinkOfHappyWhenIThinkOfYou · 10/02/2013 10:24

I have multiple sisters btw, not one sister with loads of hen parties Blush

must improve grammar

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pictish · 10/02/2013 10:28

Can I ask then? Turn the tables and make it a hen do with a male stripper/naked waiters/ male lap dancer...whatever. Would you decline the invite?
I think I would. That sort of crud doesn't interest me.

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eggsy11 · 10/02/2013 10:30

Not really the same but the 'under the thumb' comment reminded me of when me and DP first went out. He wanted to go clubbing when his ex-girlfriend would be there. I asked him not to go, he said hewwould be taken the piss out of for me telling him what to do. Big row ensued and he ended up going and I broke up with him. About three hours later cue him turning up at my door drunk crying because he had a shit night anyway and was upset he hurt me. Since then we always respect if the other doesn't want us doing something!

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seeker · 10/02/2013 10:30

I wish I had multiple sisters- I haven't even got oneSad I do have two brothers and 5 ex-Sils though- which must be some sort of record......

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Trazzletoes · 10/02/2013 10:35

?! I don't "let" DH go to lap dancing bars on stag do's because I'm achingly cool. I'm not cool in the slightest!

I don't "let" him do anything. He is his own person and can make his own choices. Of course I would have a problem with him going to a brothel because actual sex is cheating! But I know that, even going to a strip club, he chooses not to have lap dances because he is not interested in them.

As sooooo many people have already said, of he was going to cheat, he would find a way and it wouldn't be with a stripper on a stag do.

If I was unhappy about him doing something, I would sit down and have an adult conversation with him, without going all "face the music" and explain why I would prefer him not to, for example, go to a brothel. He can then make up his own mind.

DH makes his own choices because I trust him not to make decisions that would hurt me.

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WilsonFrickett · 10/02/2013 10:39

The whole feminist argument over objectification of women is tiresome, there are plenty of other feminist issues to challenge.

Nah, that's pretty much one of the main ones for me. But thanks for telling me what to think. So sorry you find it tiresome Hmm

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GirlOutNumbered · 10/02/2013 10:41

Some reading seeker on why naked butlers are unacceptable?? Er, no thanks!

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MechanicalTheatre · 10/02/2013 10:43

Trazzletoes so you draw the line at a brothel, OP draws the line at stripping.

What's the issue, exactly?

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MrsHoarder · 10/02/2013 10:51

YWNBU to tell him that you find the idea of him watching strippers uncomfortable and that it undermines your feels for and relationship with him. YWBU to tell him that he "can't go", he is an adult and can make his own decisions.

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seeker · 10/02/2013 10:54

"Some reading seeker on why naked butlers are unacceptable?? Er, no thanks!"

No. Some reading on why there is a difference between naked butlers and topless waitresses.

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hermioneweasley · 10/02/2013 11:00

None of the guys I know had strippers at their stag do's. They were rather sedate affairs. I don't think it's a given that you have to objectify women with limited options to mark the ending of single life.

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EllieArroway · 10/02/2013 11:05

A man worth forming an adult relationship with wouldn't want to!

Really? And you're speaking for absolutely all men in absolutely all situations are you?

I've known perfectly mature, respectable men who've enjoyed the odd trip to a strip club. If their partners are OK with it (and I was once a partner of one) exactly what is the problem?

If the OP has a problem with it, then she needs to tell him. A mature man will put his partners feelings first.

But the idea that NO MAN should ever want to go to anything like this is quite pathetic & and patently untrue.

And I fail to see any difference between a topless waitress and a naked butler. Tits and fannies are ruder than knobs? Hmm

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pictish · 10/02/2013 11:05

Some reading on why there is a difference between naked butlers and topless waitresses.

I cba to do reading, but I am interested in what differentiates them. Could you put it in a nutshell for me Seeker?

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Thingiebob · 10/02/2013 11:09

You can't refuse to let him go to a stag do - especially as it is his brother's.

And as a poster further up said, it's not like he hasn't seen boobs before, and seeing some strippers is not going to stop him from loving you.

Organise something else on that night out for yourself and some friends to take your mind of it.

Frankly I wouldn't give a shit if my DH went out on a stag do and there was a stripper there. I think it is tacky etc, but wouldn't be in agonies about it or feel that it would affect our relationship. In fact I should imagine he would be quite uncomfortable then come home and tell me all about it!

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biff23 · 10/02/2013 11:15

I don't get the prob some women have with this. My dh is a very nice, respectable man and has been to lap dancing clubs and strippers for stag nights. I just can't get worked up over it. Just don't think about it, he's not going to do anything with the girls and he doesn't see anymore flesh than he would in magazines or on the beach so don't stress, it really isn't worth it.

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biff23 · 10/02/2013 11:17

Elliearroway I want to "like" your post Smile

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Thingiebob · 10/02/2013 11:18

Yeah what biff said.

There is definitely some hysteria on MN about strippers.

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