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To say he can't go to stag do if there are going to be strippers?

695 replies

DelphineD · 09/02/2013 23:10

I'm sorry if this ends up being long; I will try to keep it as concise as possible.

Last year DP went to a stag do (first one that has come up whilst we have been together). It was one of his closest friends, and one that I previously liked and respected. They were away for 2 nights. I had wondered if some sort of strip thing might be involved but I thought probably not as the friend was not that kind of man and DP assured me when he got back that there was nothing of the kind. I later found out (through my scarily good investigation and interrogation!!) that this was not the case. On the first night they had been to a strip club and on the second night there were topless waitresses at their apartment for about 3 hours. This info came out bit by bit. Each time DP would insist there was nothing more to tell, then I found out something else. Eventually I think I got a full confession out of him but it was difficult to be sure as he had lied so many times about it. I also got out of him that there had been topless waitresses at a work party he had attended some time before (I had suspected something wrong and he had always denied it before.) He claimed all this was not of his doing, it was not really of interest to him and he just went along with it because they were in a group and he didn't want to make a fuss etc etc. If he had had a lap dance, I would have broken up with him (friend had a lap dance and the man has gone down a lot in my estimation.) As it was I nearly broke up with him anyway. He knew how much I hated strippers and how I would feel about it, and he did it anyway. But I think the most damaging thing was the lying. I trusted him before, and he had destroyed all that.

We got over it and agreed that if there was anything like this again he would tell me the truth and face the music. He understands how much more damaging it was that he lied about it. Since then, I have been to a work party where there was a male stripper. I didn't know in advance but I did know once I got there and I could have come home. It seemed a bit hypocritical, but I went anyway. I just sat at the back, while some of the married women in my group, went up on stage, straddled the stripper, took their wedding rings off, etc etc. That made me think that I wasn't so worried about DP being present in a large room where women were stripping, it was how he behaved and the interaction that would bother me. Hence why I was more upset about the topless women in the apartment than the ones in the strip club. FWIW I believe he would have behaved in a similar way to me in his situation. But his friend having that lap dance upset me, and made me think you can't trust any man, even the ones who seem nice and like they really love their partners.

Now he has his DB's stag party coming up. It's in the city where we live, but some people will be coming from elsewhere so there will be an apartment rented again. He has said he will tell the truth about it this time. He has admitted that the best man is planning something to do with strippers but nothing is booked in yet. I'm already feeling upset about it already and I just don't want him to be around strippers at all. WIBU to say, if that is happening, I don't want you to go at all?

OP posts:
garlicblocks · 10/02/2013 20:26

Eebahgum, I think that was more of a friendly heads-up than anything :)

FS - because he respects women and our relationship [it's not about] who is more attractive

YY. There seems to be a widespread - unspoken? - acceptance that women are a smorgasbord of carnal delights, from which any man may take his pick if he can get access. Hence the 'insecurity' of worrying that strippers are fitter/prettier/younger/sexier than oneself: If your man's got a ticket to the buffet and you're not the BEST sandwich he might take one of the others! Shock, horror, fear!

It's really a pretty crap way to see yourself, and insulting to men as well. Surely you'd expect your partner to be attracted to other women quite often? And expect him not to do anything about that, because he respects his relationship with you? So why the bloody hell would he pay to have other women stick their fanjos in his face?

Doesn't make sense, unless you really do think all men sue women, and women must compete to be used Confused

BTW, the strippers ARE fitter/prettier/younger/sexier. It's in their job description.

garlicblocks · 10/02/2013 20:27

unless you think all men use women, that would be, not 'sue' Grin

Eebahgum · 10/02/2013 20:30

A friendly heads up? That this website is not for people who sign off their messages with x but there is another one I can use where it is more socially acceptable? Doesn't sound that friendly to me.

garlicblocks · 10/02/2013 20:34

Okay.

ledkr · 10/02/2013 20:37

Eba- well yes I guess I have. Are you jealous then?

seeker · 10/02/2013 20:38

Still not had an answer or two!

"Two things.

  1. Those of you who are happy for people to use LDCs and strippers, do you care at all about the women offering these services, and the conditions they work in?
  1. Would you be happy for your daughters to do the same work?"
ledkr · 10/02/2013 20:42

And "are you equally happy if a woman comes onto him strips off and sticks her tits in his face and makes him have a hard on?

ledkr · 10/02/2013 20:43

I mean of the non stripper variety if course.

MarmaladeTwatkins · 10/02/2013 20:45

You won't get an answer, seeker. To uncomfortable to answer, I think.

DizzyZebra · 10/02/2013 20:48

TBH You sound more like a criminal interrogater than his wife. I couldn't be with someone that controlling.

countrykitten · 10/02/2013 20:52

And back to square one.

MechanicalTheatre · 10/02/2013 20:57

My partner wants to go to a brothel to get a hand job for his stag do. AIBU to not want him to?

Er, bit controlling there, OP. It's a stag do FFS. It's not like he's going to be shagging her, he's just getting a hand job. I don't care if my husband gets a hand job off a prostitute, what difference does it make? He's still going to come home to me.

You know, or whatever. Hand job, lap dance, blow job, shag. Everyone has their limits. Personally I just don't want my partner to have anything to do with the sex industry.

DizzyZebra · 10/02/2013 20:59

Bit of a difference between strippers and prostitutes for a start MT. No sexual contact for a start.

FitzgeraldProtagonist · 10/02/2013 21:02

I am so unattractive to strippers it isn't even funny. The ones at various he s I have been to are without doubt, simple. Give me a searing intellect, witty riposte and respect any day of the week.

For same reason wouldn't give two fucks about bf seeing a stripper at a stag thing. Because I am sooooo a better option ;)

ledkr · 10/02/2013 21:02

Isn't there dizzy? How do you know that? Can I invite you to read the thread?

MechanicalTheatre · 10/02/2013 21:04

What's the difference then? Explain it to me.

DizzyZebra · 10/02/2013 21:08

Well a stripper takes her clothes off and there is no contact.

Lap dancing is a little different. I can understand why some might not like that anymore than if a random woman wandered into your living room right now and started grinding against your OH.

Prostitution involves paying a woman for sex or sexual activities such as hand jobs or oral sex.

Did you not know this? It's really not hard to understand.

Anyway i wasn't commenting on the OPs dislike of these things, I was commenting on her 'interrogation skills' as she put it. It is creepy and controlling.

If a man came on here and revealed he extensively checked out his girlfriends activities on a night out you'd all be screaming leave the bastard and abuse abuse.

ledkr · 10/02/2013 21:11

Bored now I'm off to bed night all.

DizzyZebra · 10/02/2013 21:11

Oh, and the topless waitress thing - I actually work with a company who also provides these services. They are often used at parties such as the OP describes. There are strict rules. There is NO sexual contact. The girls aren't allowed to drink, they have to even be careful what they say to the clients, They are not allowed sexual contact etc, Not even a kiss.

hamdangle · 10/02/2013 21:13

I just don't believe that anyone would be happy for their DP to go to a LDC. Women just say that because their partners are going to go anyway and they are scared of looking like they are prudish and controlling. If you we're really happy and secure in your relationship you would feel able to say if you didn't want your other half to do something that made you feel uncomfortable and if your DP really respected you they wouldn't want a stranger to rub their foo all over them! And they pay for it!!!

My DH has never been to one and never would and has come home early from a stag because the others did. In fact we once went to the theatre and one of the actors suddenly whacked her waps out and waggled them round and he got really embarrassed. Afterwards he said that he felt really odd about it because he seen another woman's ta tas in real life and it felt really wrong.

GirlOutNumbered · 10/02/2013 21:15

Ledkr. That makes the most sense of any post tonight. I can't believe this thread is still going.
Night all.

GirlOutNumbered · 10/02/2013 21:16

Sorry, I just have to comment on ham. Your husband calls them ta tas?

countrykitten · 10/02/2013 21:22

'ta tas'? Bloody hell. I am SO glad that I am with the man I am with. There are some strange ones out there.

G'night.

hamdangle · 10/02/2013 21:27

Ha. No that's me. DH sticks predictably with boobs or boobies. I have a friend who calls them puppies but that brings up disturbing images for me so I use tats or ta tas.

badinage · 10/02/2013 21:28

Oh, and the topless waitress thing - I actually work with a company who also provides these services.

You can't say that about the country the OP lives in and where those topless waitresses were booked. Because we don't know which country she lives in, just that it's not the UK. In many countries those waitresses are prostitutes. Hell, even in the UK where it's illegal to be a pimp, a lot of 'agencies' have to go to a lot of trouble to produce Rules and Procedures which nobody 'in the know' follows in practice, as long as the money is right.