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To say he can't go to stag do if there are going to be strippers?

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DelphineD · 09/02/2013 23:10

I'm sorry if this ends up being long; I will try to keep it as concise as possible.

Last year DP went to a stag do (first one that has come up whilst we have been together). It was one of his closest friends, and one that I previously liked and respected. They were away for 2 nights. I had wondered if some sort of strip thing might be involved but I thought probably not as the friend was not that kind of man and DP assured me when he got back that there was nothing of the kind. I later found out (through my scarily good investigation and interrogation!!) that this was not the case. On the first night they had been to a strip club and on the second night there were topless waitresses at their apartment for about 3 hours. This info came out bit by bit. Each time DP would insist there was nothing more to tell, then I found out something else. Eventually I think I got a full confession out of him but it was difficult to be sure as he had lied so many times about it. I also got out of him that there had been topless waitresses at a work party he had attended some time before (I had suspected something wrong and he had always denied it before.) He claimed all this was not of his doing, it was not really of interest to him and he just went along with it because they were in a group and he didn't want to make a fuss etc etc. If he had had a lap dance, I would have broken up with him (friend had a lap dance and the man has gone down a lot in my estimation.) As it was I nearly broke up with him anyway. He knew how much I hated strippers and how I would feel about it, and he did it anyway. But I think the most damaging thing was the lying. I trusted him before, and he had destroyed all that.

We got over it and agreed that if there was anything like this again he would tell me the truth and face the music. He understands how much more damaging it was that he lied about it. Since then, I have been to a work party where there was a male stripper. I didn't know in advance but I did know once I got there and I could have come home. It seemed a bit hypocritical, but I went anyway. I just sat at the back, while some of the married women in my group, went up on stage, straddled the stripper, took their wedding rings off, etc etc. That made me think that I wasn't so worried about DP being present in a large room where women were stripping, it was how he behaved and the interaction that would bother me. Hence why I was more upset about the topless women in the apartment than the ones in the strip club. FWIW I believe he would have behaved in a similar way to me in his situation. But his friend having that lap dance upset me, and made me think you can't trust any man, even the ones who seem nice and like they really love their partners.

Now he has his DB's stag party coming up. It's in the city where we live, but some people will be coming from elsewhere so there will be an apartment rented again. He has said he will tell the truth about it this time. He has admitted that the best man is planning something to do with strippers but nothing is booked in yet. I'm already feeling upset about it already and I just don't want him to be around strippers at all. WIBU to say, if that is happening, I don't want you to go at all?

OP posts:
GirlOutNumbered · 10/02/2013 15:11

No countrykitten I can't see how seedy it is, because I worked there and you didn't. You are basing your judgement on what you think goes on. I am basing mine on actually working there.

There were quite a few 'letchy' men as there are in all pubs/clubs - but alot of lovely men AND women on a night out. FWIW (in the context of the OP), stag parties were rarely allowed in.

They don't just flash their tits by the way. Surely that would be a peep show.

garlicblocks · 10/02/2013 15:13

In Delphine's particular case, we could also add:
[c] It's harmless to lie to your partner about it.

GirlOutNumbered · 10/02/2013 15:14

Maybe it would be relevant if I wanted to WORK in a lap dancing bar and get paid for it. Stripping for random men while my husband goes out is not relevant and is a bit stupid.

Anyway, I don't remember saying my husband thinks its fine. He doesn't, he's the shy retiring type and it would embarrass him terribly.

GirlOutNumbered · 10/02/2013 15:14

ah now there I agree Garlic. Absolutely not fine to lie.

countrykitten · 10/02/2013 15:15

No - I imagine that they flash a great deal more than just their tits. And you have missed my point - I am not saying that any individual club was seedy, I am saying that the whole concept of the thing is seedy - and you were happy to make money out of it.

And fwiw I think that your idea of 'lovely' people may well be different to mine.

MarmaladeTwatkins · 10/02/2013 15:21

Apart from the tips being great what other job satisfaction did you get from serving over-priced drinks to sweaty-palmed men who'd probably been wanking in their booth five minutes earlier, over one of your less fortunate colleagues?

PrincessUnderpaid · 10/02/2013 15:22

I used to be awfully insecure and when BIL got married they all went to a lap dancing bar, I wasn't invited to SILTB hen do, we don't get on however I waited up in some new lingerie for him and gave him a special dance of his own! Asking him the next day about then strippers all he would harp on about is how cool I was for waiting up for him with a treat, I got the princess treatment for a week.

4 years later and he still remembers that little private show, despite a few more since, he said it was my confidence and nonchalant attitude he loved, don't wait up in a dressing gown and a frown - why go out for burger when you have steak at home!

garlicblocks · 10/02/2013 15:23

Stripping for random men while my husband goes out is not relevant and is a bit stupid.

It's relevant because the only difference between you stripping off and the dancer doing it is money. For the thought experiment, it's fine if you make your imaginary audience pay. I don't see that it changes anything.

my husband ... the shy retiring type and it would embarrass him terribly

Ah, so your position is purely theoretical? There's no danger at all that you will have to face the situation you're advising others to accept?

Grin
Trazzletoes · 10/02/2013 15:24

Argh! I'm not in the least bit insecure and afraid my DH would leave me if I asked him not to go to a strip club for his DB's stag do.

I genuinely wouldn't care if he went or not!

Why are you trying to put down all the women on this thread who don't have a problem with strip clubs? Why the negativity towards us hjust because this is something that doesn't bother us. We are not desperate, insecure or trying to be cool! WE TRUST OUR OHs!!!!!!!!!

GirlOutNumbered · 10/02/2013 15:24

haha Marmalade. It was a job while I was at uni. Are you really suggesting that I was working for job satisfaction?!
Can I point out AGAIN that there is a large mix of men and women.

Wanking in their booth? The ones with full CCTV? Yes, I'm sure that happens loads .

countrykitten · 10/02/2013 15:26

Princess is your post a wind up?

MarmaladeTwatkins · 10/02/2013 15:27

It is always a job when you are at uni', Girl. People only ever work in these places when they are at uni', apparently.

Couldn't give a shit if the ratio was 90-10 women to men. That's even more depressing. You almost expect men to buy into this shit. That women are buying into it is very sad.

countrykitten · 10/02/2013 15:27

I trust my husband completely. He does not need to go to strip clubs for me to prove this to him.

MarmaladeTwatkins · 10/02/2013 15:28

Princess's post is everything that is wrong with women today.

BelaLugosisShed · 10/02/2013 15:29

"I got the princess treatment for a week"
Jesus H Christ, I don't know where to begin with that post Sad .

countrykitten · 10/02/2013 15:30

I'm still hoping that she will come back and say it was a wind up. Please come back and say it was a wind up....Sad

PrincessUnderpaid · 10/02/2013 15:30

No it's not a wind up, I took control of being insecure and felt better about myself....I think it's called having fun.

Sallystyle · 10/02/2013 15:33

I don't think you are U for your feelings.

I am very against strippers and all that and thankfully my husband feels the same and wouldn't be seen dead in one, you would never get him on a night out like that his friends and family are also not the type to have stage do's at stripper clubs.

His brother went go cart racing and my husband went for a meal for his and was back at 10.pm Grin

This was something we discussed before we made a commitment to each other so we knew we were on the same page. You don't seem to have much choice, OP. You can't force him to not go but at the same time it would be nice for him to respect your feelings if it really bothers you so much. If my husband has a huge issue with something I would take his opinion into consideration.

You can't realistically tell him he can't go.. if you threaten him with separation he might just take you up on it and would you really want to end your relationship with him over this? if he feels trapped into not going you are going to end up being resented.

Good luck xx

garlicblocks · 10/02/2013 15:33

So would you do it for some other blokes, too, Princess? And would DH be fine with that?

MarmaladeTwatkins · 10/02/2013 15:34

"No it's not a wind up, I took control of being insecure and felt better about myself....I think it's called having fun."

You should try getting yourself a more adult partner instead of one that makes you feel like you have to do that^ sort of thing to validate yourself.

Just a thought.

limitedperiodonly · 10/02/2013 15:35

garlic I remember that dead eyed look you're talking about from years ago when a friend had a work account at Stringfellows.

It was just when it was changing from a cheesy disco to that Angels poledancing thing which is why a group of us women went.

We were going to get our coats and my friend asked a man staring at a pole dancer if she could get by. She joked: 'Oops. I nearly stepped on your tongue there' and he unleashed the vilest torrent of abuse I think I've ever heard. And I'm not sheltered. It was shocking and actually quite frightening.

The idea that he would have turned down the chance for a flirty conversation with a real life attractive 20-something to stare blankly at a paid-for stripper chills me to this day.

garlicblocks · 10/02/2013 15:36

You can't realistically tell him he can't go.. if you threaten him with separation he might just take you up on it

Really, Princess, you are THAT dozy???

You've just told OP her husband might care more about a hand-job in a spare room than about his marriage!

I'm bloody sure I'd want a separation from a husband like that!

garlicblocks · 10/02/2013 15:37

Yes: frightening, limited :(

PrincessUnderpaid · 10/02/2013 15:38

I wouldn't strip for other men, I don't have the body for it tbh they would probably pay me to keep my clothes on with the botched c-section scar.

My point is, I was worried because I thought he would see these women and see me as less attractive, turns out he didn't. Sexy can be an attitude not just a look.

MarmaladeTwatkins · 10/02/2013 15:39

Eugh.

So you wouldn't have rathered he just didn't go, Princess?

Vile.

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