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to want to go outside and slash down the SOLD sign outside our rented home?

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rocket74 · 09/02/2013 09:03

I am so so upset. Our happily rented home for us with 2 small children has been sold and we will have to move out. We wanted to stay here indefinately. Been here 3.5 years but never realised when we moved in our rent was paying for the owners care home fees and that when she died it would be sold. Thought they meant it when they said long term rental.
So gutted. Some couple came round with their kid and dad who was obviously putting up the deposit for them. Alright for some!!
ABSOLUTELY bereft - we have tried looking for somewhere new - but we need an extra £400 month to get somewhere even vaguely similar as rents have gone crazy in this area - Brighton and Hove.

I just want to scream and slash the sign because if I don't I will end up slashing something else - which won't help issues.
Our little boy loves this house - he has autism - and the garden is big enough for him to run and do his laps - as is the living dining room.
I just want to be able to provide him with a home to suit his needs but I don't see how. I'm just crying all the time and feel totally hopeless.

Will I be done for criminal damage if I do smash down that fucking sign?

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PureQuintessence · 09/02/2013 17:29

"I don't understand why they are perceived as better tenants."

Because references for their parents are also taken, and they need to sign as guarantors. If the tenants trash the place, the parents have to make good.

Adults can just trash a place and move on without leaving a forwarding address.

brettgirl2 · 09/02/2013 17:37

I am utterly shocked by the attitude of a lot of the posters. The idea of constantly living just waiting for the letter to come to tell you to move out with dcs is just horrendous. The ignorance of just do xyz Hmm. OP YANBU at all, can't be much help but good luck and I hope you get sorted out soon.

quoteunquote · 09/02/2013 17:49

I dont see any homeless families on the streets. Perhaps there are, but I dont see the.
So if they are not housed by the council, and they are not in reality on the streets, where are they. With friends or family?

we have hundreds of homeless families here (SW) they mostly live in caravans, lots in groups,

one of the new age traveller site (most are there not because they are travellers but because we don't have enough rental properties in our area, lots of empty second homes but no first homes for families) not far from me, has about thirty families, they have been fighting eviction from a patch of council land, next to the A38, there are about 35 children in my children's school, all lovely, and very frightened as to what is to happen next,

we have hundreds of sites housing people in very difficult conditions, most are working, pay tax , council tax, but even with decent wages, it very difficult to find long term leases, they are even waiting lists to get spaces on illegal sites, that are going to be evicted,

one family, dad is a gardener/farm labour , mum special needs teacher, three children are living in two caravans by a tidal brook, have been flooded out eleven times this winter, totally love by the village community, desperate for a home, they been on the side of the road for four years, they can afford about £700, a month, you get a one bed flat for that in this area if you are lucky.

I am really shocked people don't realise how many homeless families there are in this country, they are in benders, tents,(lots of our camp sites here have people under canvas all the year round) caravans and vehicles,

speak to your community traveller liaison officer, to get an idea of what is going on,

we also have hundreds of families living in B&B one room situations, and hostels.

we support by opening our home, to families for baths and home support, I've met some very lovely hard working people who are really struggling to get home, some manage to get winter lets (they are holiday cottages in the summer), but it hard as if you go down that route, you can't get a space on the sites for summer,

SilverMoo · 09/02/2013 18:00

In desperation I called the council and was told we would have to move into temporary B&B accommodation (and give our dog to the RSPCA) if we couldn't find somewhere to live in the time we had been given by our landlady.

I think I know about 3 people of my age group (29) who own their own house - and that was because they were given hefty deposits by their parents, it's disgraceful.

amillionyears · 09/02/2013 18:03

By homeless I meant without a roof over their heads.

I think the meaning of the word homeless must have changed.
Well I thought that, so have just googled.

But the definition of homeless is "without a home and therefore typically living on the streets".

amillionyears · 09/02/2013 18:04

Perhaps the definition of the word needs to change.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 09/02/2013 18:06

No, amillion, 'homeless' means 'without a home'.

It does not necessarily mean 'living on the streets', no matter where you googled that from.

Lots of people are homeless but not on the streets all the time. There are things called Homeless shelters, which will provide a bed for the night, and they do a lot. There is also provision to get some people who're homeless into temporary accommodation like bed and breakfasts. In my area, lots of churches organize so that homeless people have somewhere to drop in during the day one day a week, and this is quite common too. There are quite a lot of charities that have to do with these things. Some have been going for centuries now.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 09/02/2013 18:07

(Btw, I am still aware there needs to be far more provision, and that the OP isn't in this situation - just clarifying some basics.)

amillionyears · 09/02/2013 18:09

LRD, I just put into google, "homeless definition", and that is what popped up.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 09/02/2013 18:13

Ah, you probably got a goodle result rather than a dictionary definition.

But no, 'homeless' is just a simple word meaning 'without a home'.

It is quite common for people to be homeless but to have somewhere to sleep, because if all homeless people slept on the streets, bluntly, huge numbers of people would die. In the winter, it is quite easy to freeze to death if you sleep rough, and especially if you are vulnerable, for example if you are a child or elderly. So people do make huge efforts to keep homeless children protected. That's partly why we have a welfare state.

amillionyears · 09/02/2013 18:22

Hmm. That explains why, when I get into conversations with Big Issue sellers,[after buying a Big Issue I might add] that they have a flat to go to at night.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 09/02/2013 18:25

Yes, that is why. They will usually explain to you if you happen not to know, btw. Often the big issue has articles about what being homeless is like, too.

rocket74 · 09/02/2013 18:26

We are currently in Band D for housing so not a hope in hell of getting a house.
ediblewoman - I do have a meeting with housing options next week - all i am looking for and have asked for is help with a loan to bridge the gap of deposits etc which we will then pay back once our deposit on this house comes back.
We are looking for a max rent of £1250 a month - i don't see how we could afford any more than that.
Thank you so much for clarifying the situation in B&H. My sister works in housing in the Midlands and she keeps telling me to bid bid bid - she was totally shocked to hear that the two two bed houses I bid on last month attracted over 300 bids each. She thought it was more like twenty which it is in her area.

My son is only 3.5 so its not as though we have known since dot that he had special needs and was only diagnosed a few months ago and I don't know about anyone else but I didn't automatically get his diagnosis and go
' kerching!!! - free house for me!!!"

Anyway I have been compiling a list of why its ok to move and everything that is wrong with this house as many seem to think I am living in a luxury house just off the seafront with posh knobs and knockers. I must of oversold it!!

  1. have to put out buckets in the kitchen when it rains due to ceiling leak
  2. freezing in winter and boiling in summer due to poor insulation
  3. windows broken or no seals so let in draughts
  4. sailing ship tiles in the bathroom Grin
  5. peeling paint and plaster on all kitchen walls
  6. mice
  7. drainage issues - nearly had to move out last spring due to toxic standing water under the house
  8. next door gets re-let every three months so lots of disruption with new neighbours
  9. doors fall off kitchen cupboards all the time
10. electrics are shot so have to replace bulbs all the time

And for the record I never had any intention of trashing the house, just the estate agents sign - when I said slash I was in a state to more consider the part of my body that keeps my hands attached than anything else.

I have no idea either what heidihole by just offering me a biscuit meant - why was that mean and horrid? Confused In real life I like biscuits, especially those with the solid chocolate on top :)

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ImNotDrunkIJustCantType · 09/02/2013 18:27

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amillionyears · 09/02/2013 18:30

Glad your sense of humour is back op Smile

LRDtheFeministDragon · 09/02/2013 18:31

True, ImNot.

PureQuintessence · 09/02/2013 18:32

I think you will find then, that the "Sold" sign is the most solid fixture of the property, and you might have better luck knocking the kitchen wall down. Wink

I have jumping frogs tiles in my kitchen. Some things you learn to live with. Grin

By that list, I think you have been handed a nicer future on a plate! Honestly, look for something nice and better further out.

Can you return from maternity leave early to increase your chances?
Any chance you can manage to get a mortgage?

specialsubject · 09/02/2013 18:36

rental does not have to be a 'hand to mouth' waiting for notice. Most buy to let landlords (the ones so hated by the people here) will want good tenants to stay as long as possible. A standard first tenancy is a year with a break at six months - even the worst tenants can't be evicted before the six months is up. (doesn't matter if they destroy the place or never pay a penny in rent) Tenancies can be agreed for years if it suits both sides, I know people who have five year leases. This doesn't help the OP but there are some people who appear to think that every tenant lives on a knife edge.

The bitter hatred of landlords every time someone mentions the end of a tenancy amazes me.

MoreBeta · 09/02/2013 18:37

If the Sold sign bothers you just take it down lay it behind your hedge and tell the agent it is ready to collect. Just dont smash it up or dump it somewhere.

I did that with a rental we were in. The agent really wasnt bothered.

rocket74 · 09/02/2013 18:38

don't get me started on the jugs of wild flowers tiles in the kitchen!!

I go back to work in a month so will have more clout then maybe.
only issue with moving further out is the longer journey to work - but will be worth it if we find a good place with space x

no deposit so no chance of mortgage i'm afraid - resigned to renting - but want long term to mean long term - i don't understand why so many think that e should thank our lucky stars for a three year rental. i was in our last place for ten years!!

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specialsubject · 09/02/2013 18:39

ah, I see. The place has turned from a happily rented home into a shithole.

Definitely time for a 'no comment'.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 09/02/2013 18:40

special - six months isn't a very long time when you see people have mentioned times between two and eleven years to get a council property.

Do you know you have to pay ever time you move? I paid around 300 quid last time I moved - half a month's rent - just for agency fees, alone.

So yes, it is pretty insecure and the fact you might get a LL let you stay on is lovely, but not enough to make tenancies in this country secure.

SilverMoo · 09/02/2013 18:42

*ah, I see. The place has turned from a happily rented home into a shithole.

Definitely time for a 'no comment'*

I imagine OP is trying to make herself feel better about the fact she is being evicted from her home....? But wait, how fucking dare she change her mind, try to make herself feel better or try to look at it differently the horrible little renter!!!!

SilverMoo · 09/02/2013 18:43

ah, I see. The place has turned from a happily rented home into a shithole. Definitely time for a 'no comment

I imagine OP is trying to make herself feel better about the fact she is being evicted from her home....? But wait, how fucking dare she change her mind, try to make herself feel better or try to look at it differently the horrible little renter!!!!

rocket74 · 09/02/2013 18:43

just trying to think positively and move on thats all.
or would you rather i crumbled into a corner wailing over all the things that have been posted??

still a happy home and would still live here for the next five years but its not the brighton grandeur in a hip area that many supposed it was.

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