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EVIL MILs - WHY DID YOU MARRY SOMEONE WHEN YOU DON'T LIKE THEIR MUM??

206 replies

Hullygully · 07/02/2013 15:36

Why??

What did you think would happen?

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MrsKoala · 08/02/2013 11:32

After a year mil told dh to end it with me and was really taken back that he didn't. All this is also exacerbated by fil. Who winds her up and just sulks and refuses to speak to people for months, sometimes years over them just saying something trivial he disagrees with. Pils didn't come to our wedding and fil has never even mentioned it.

They have tolerated dh's gf's because they always thought they were transient. When it gets serious they go mental. It's a fear of the loss of control. The only people they speak to are dh and a builder they hire for cheap. Everyone else is banned from the house for the crime of having an opinion, however trivial, any deviation from exactly what they think is seen as betrayal and insult.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/02/2013 11:34

If people picked partners based on their mothers I would be doomed.

My mother is dreadful.

Hullygully · 08/02/2013 11:40

WHY HAVE I NEVER MET ANY OF THESE GHASTLY PEOPLE..??

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wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/02/2013 11:43

Come on round. I will let you meet my mum.

You will rock in the corner until hometime.

forgetmenots · 08/02/2013 11:43

I'm sure people that know my mil think she is a bit abrasive but means well. She keeps the worst for when it's just her and DH :(

Hully I think some are being harsh on you - until I met DH I didn't understand any of this either. It's a whole other world.

MrsKoala · 08/02/2013 11:50

I am hoping that the reason every one finds the mil thing incredulous is because it is, by and large, unusual.

People find it easier to think i am exaggerating or confused when I explain they never saw ds or mentioned him when he was born. In fact they were in a strop with dh and wouldn't answer his calls and emails to say their first gc had been born, because dh hadn't thanked them quickly enough for a parcel of car boot crap for he house that arrived whilst I was in labour.

If you met pils tho, I'm sure you would think them lovely and charming. That's the problem. Thy wait till you leave then dissect every fibre of your visit and retrospectively decide you insulted them.

manicbmc · 08/02/2013 11:51

My ex still lives with his mother (out of some misguided sense of duty Hmm ) . He is 50 and she won't allow his gf to visit because she thinks it is all wrong that he is getting on with his life (3 years since we split). She treats him like shit even though he does loads for her (shopping, gardening, diy, washing etc). She regularly doesn't speak to him over the most trivial things.

LadyFlumpalot · 08/02/2013 12:07

Mine is very much in charge of her house. She doesn't work and is very proud of the fact that she is the home-maker. She runs her family (FIL, SIL and her boyfriend who live them) with an iron rod. I believe she thinks her sons house and family are also under her jurisdiction.

I do get on ok with MIL most of the time, it is only when she starts trying to run MY house under HER rules that we clash. We have proper alpha female battles, but they are done in a covert, discreet and quite sneaky way.

The one thing she did do, that I will never forgive her for however, is announce to me that my own son was going to live with her, to save us childcare costs. She lives over 100 miles away, she suggested we come to see our own son, at her house, on weekends.

I kicked her out of my house for that one.

Fakebook · 08/02/2013 12:12

I don't have a mil and neither does my DH. It's quite sad our children have no grandmothers. But I didn't marry DH just because his mother was dead, although my dsis thinks its an added bonus.

babiesinslingsgetcoveredinfood · 08/02/2013 12:15

Fakebook Smile

mrspolkadotty · 08/02/2013 12:15

Because she didn't show her true colours and real opinion of me until we'd been together for 4 yrs (married for almost a year). Their other DIL had an affair, caused lots of hurt and upset to BIL. This, it turns out was all MY fault. Their family was fine until i came into it, i'd trapped DH with marriage and babies, yadda yadda. Sun shines out of SIL's arse, she can do no wrong. I on the other hand am the black sheep of the family, half don't speak to me and the rest barely tolerate me. Hateful woman.

If DH and I hadn't already been married at that point then i'd have cancelled any wedding plans. He stood there and didn't say a word to defend me against her tirade of abuse. Milk sap. Made all manner of excuses for her etc. I gave it straight back at her and then threw her out, told her she may bully her husband and sons but if she thought she could do the same to me she'd another think coming. Now we are sickeningly polite to each other Grin Old witch.

twitchycurtains · 08/02/2013 12:32

Mrspolka: mine seems to blame me for BIL's wife leaving him, apparently I filled her head with all kinds of 'feminist rubbish' as SIL is from the old country MIL felt she would be grateful to be married to a Brit and was 'brought' over. She left BIL because she could cope with a) her husband being a complete mummys boy and b) interference from mil and sil in her marriage.

But of course me being the heathen man hater I must have put her up to it.

twitchycurtains · 08/02/2013 12:33

Meant couldn't

IneedAsockamnesty · 08/02/2013 13:04

Nobody really notices other people's behaviour towards there family because bad behaviour usually tends to be hidden from the general public.

Very few people are nasty to apsolutly everybody the people who they are nasty to tend to be those involved in actual relationships with them so whilst they may be perfectly nice and polite to the gas man they won't be to someone they have a relationship with who they arnt very keen on,we seam to care more about what strangers think of us than we do other people,that's probably why you havent seen any of this unless you are on the reciving end.

I know I prefer to actively choose who I form relationships with and one would think most people are much the same about things like that.

Obviously your born and you grow up so you have no choice who your own parents and siblings are yet you are expected to form a good relationship with someone who if they went involved with your adult child or the family of your partner you may not choose to have any associating with,I'm pretty sure that's why it can be so fraught for the people in those relationships.

I think that problems can start when a commitment is formed because it kinda like shoving in your face that now you have to form a relationship that's often more than just a transient one.

Or when children come along because when your own parent in there excitement oversteps the mark you can quite easily tell them to back the fuck off knowing that at some stage down the line they will probably forgive you due to all your history and involvement but you can't really get away with doing that to someone else's family.

I can remember once when my mother was totally overstepping yelling "what exactly were you doing at 2:43 on the 17/08/93." Her response "I was with you whilst you gave birth" to which I replayed " well fucking remember you were watching me,not doing it yourself and back the fuck off" at her.

She stormed off but got over it because she had to in our relationship I was the only person she had to get past as my DH would have said "your dd you deal with it I won't get involved" where as if she had fell out with dh in her mind she still had someone with a whole life of involvement with her to work on to get her way ( even tho I would have said exactly the same thing as dh she was not to know that) I think its much the same to your partners and there parents they rely on the whole life involvement.

Its very easy to over step the mark with a baby who you are related to because baby's are mostly the loveliest things and are so exciting and I think lots of female relations who haven't had a baby in the family for awhile can often get hung up on the lets pretend the baby is mine thing even if they don't let on whilst the mothers of those baby's are experancing a perfectly normal biological reaction to having there own baby ( that being generally protective about everything to do with that baby) but its easy to forget that when our own baby's are adults so if your not careful you can do unfixable damage.

And no matter how much you dress it up no matter how much you don't want it to be true when it comes to baby's that are either not yours legally or ones you didn't give birth to,they are not yours and its always going to be down to you to act accordingly and not attempt to behave like they are yours.if you don't or can't then you are going to have huge problems.

Oh this isant exclusively female relations that may do stuff like that my ex fil has recently had my child's name tattood on him ( first tattoo so its not as tho he already has his own dc's names done) its weird.

IneedAsockamnesty · 08/02/2013 13:11

Oh and I would only not get involved with a bloke with fucked up parent/s if he expected me to go along with pandering to them.

You can never blame someone for there parents only for how they expect me to behave if they behave badly towards my children or mr.

HumphreyCobbler · 08/02/2013 13:33

WHY HAVE I NEVER MET ANY OF THESE GHASTLY PEOPLE..??

You must be very lucky! I am lucky enough not to have people like this in my family but I have come across them at work, and through friends. The negative energy some people generate never ceases to amaze me - how can spite, rudeness and malevolence be the guiding principles of someone's life?

GreenPetal94 · 08/02/2013 14:03

I considered not marrying my partner because of his mum and dad. That was one of my main concerns and it is an issue, but we live geographically far from them. It was just one factor, I married him because I loved him.

MrsKoala · 08/02/2013 14:18

Having pondered this further, I have concluded I would rather be with someone who had a small, difficult, estranged family than a really close, in and out of each others houses, go on holiday together, type one. I find those really creepy tbh. Better the devil you know I suppose. If I met a bloke who wanted to go to dinner once a week at his parents etc, I would run a mile.

Arcticwaffle · 08/02/2013 14:23

I agree MrsKoala, people who get on with their parents and see lots of them, that's weird...

Nasty or dysfunctional or just tedious families kept at a safe distance, that's much more normal, I can cope with that.

Hullygully · 08/02/2013 14:27

normal is just whatever you're used to (of course!)

I am close to my family and see a lot of them, even my third cousins and such. My dc know my cousin's dcs etc. My mum comes ot stay with us on holiday, as does my dsis and also my dh's dbro, wife and three dc. All my family and his family now know and like each other and all came for Christmas which was splendid.

I thoguht it was nice, not weird!

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Hullygully · 08/02/2013 14:27

Oh, he does have two odd dbros we don't see much to balance things out, tho they are now making efforts and their dc speak to mine on fb.

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MrsKoala · 08/02/2013 14:37

I wouldn't find it nice. At best I think I'd find it boring to be with the same people all the time. I like small quiet family units. I would find that all very overwhelming. Both dh and I are essentially only children so like our own space.

Hullygully · 08/02/2013 14:40

It's not all the time, it's whatever anyone feels like.

We are all different.

I like it, it's nice for the dc to feel part of a big family as I did.

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MrsKoala · 08/02/2013 14:50

As you said, it's what you are used to. Everyone I know with big families who do everything together strike me as odd tbh. I would consider seeing my extended family more than once a month 'all the time'. It was once a year while I grew up and that was too much! If we had anything in common I suppose it may have made sense but no one did. My half sister and I can barely manage a few words together. We've never fallen out, just have nothing to say to each other.

Ds will have to grow up with no cousins or extended family. I feel sad for him sometimes, but hope we can have more do and make enough friends to fill any gaps. You've got to play the hand you've got I suppose.

Hullygully · 08/02/2013 14:53

We certainly do.

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