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AIBU?

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To ask if you would let a new boyfriend bathe your 7 year old daughter?

144 replies

TeenTwinsToddlerandTiaras · 22/01/2013 14:47

A friend of mine did this and I am not suggesting anything untoward went on at all but I found it very odd.

This little girl has had to cope to witnessing DV and now has to cope with a new man in her life almost immediately that her father left. Now 'friend' has him bathing her and completely stripping away her dignity imo.

AIBU to give this 'friend' a piece of my mind?

OP posts:
TroublesomeEx · 22/01/2013 15:24

women that take up with child abusing men (and there are plenty of each) often like to offer them the opportunity, partly as an "I trust you"

Sadly, I can vouch for that.

You could mention it to the local police. You won't have a right to know but if they look him up and find out there is something, they will be able to tell her mother and issue a safeguarding alert to SS who will come round and speak with her.

Obviously, someone will be along in a minute to tell us we're all scaremongering.

Even if this man doesn't pose a risk, a future boyfriend of her mother's might. As might another man in the future and she needs secure boundaries in place.

KellyElly · 22/01/2013 15:24

Absolutely no fucking way. I would think it was strange that he was comfortable with it as well.

PickledInAPearTree · 22/01/2013 15:25

No No No NO No.

And why would he want to?

Makes me shiver.

popcornpaws · 22/01/2013 15:27

NO!!!!

MusicalEndorphins · 22/01/2013 15:28

No, and if I were the 7 year old girl, I would not have co operated and run off.

KirstyoffEastendersweirdtoplip · 22/01/2013 15:30

Totally inappropriate. Agree with Pickled - why would he want to?

Not sure a 'piece of your mind' would be the right approach, she might just get angry and shut you out.

sweetkitty · 22/01/2013 15:33

Totally wrong

I have 8 and 7 yo DDs and I do not bathe them at all. Their Dad or I do wash their hair as its long and they would really struggle to do it themselves. They have a play in the bath, wash themselves then we pop in to do hair, they dry and dress themselves and we dry their hair.

Was actually thinking the other day now DD1 is approaching 9 that she maybe uncomfortable with her Dad seeing her naked.

Allaquandry · 22/01/2013 15:34

This thread is totally weird.

Lets try another angle. 'New partner has moved in and we are expecting our first child together. I have to work evening shifts sometimes and don't always have time to wash DDs very long hair. She's 7 and I'm wondering if it would be ok to ask him to make sure she shampoos it properly. For all his faults (DV), ExH used to do it sometimes (and put her to bed too) and it feels like a natural thing for a SD to do, but don't know if it might be invading her privacy a bit. WWYD?'

I just don't see that kind of opening post attracting the same comments....

Portofino · 22/01/2013 15:35

No - my dd is 8 and does not want ME touching her now - and dad is forbidden from the bathroom. I supervise hair rinsing and that is about it. I have given her a very clear message that it is HER body and she does not have to have anyone touching it if she doesn.t want to / feel uncomfortable.

cory · 22/01/2013 15:37

Regardless of how innocent he may be, it's about the little girl's privacy and her boundaries.

ExpatAl · 22/01/2013 15:37

Normally I am a bit cautious about scaremongering about abuse etc, but in this case I think it is right. What new boyfriend wants to sit in a bath with a 7 year old? This thread makes me more and more uncomfortable.

ExpatAl · 22/01/2013 15:38

Helping to wash hair is one thing. Getting into the bath with her is something entirely different.

TroublesomeEx · 22/01/2013 15:41

OP has clarified that as far as she knows he didn't get into the bath with her.

But I wouldn't be comfortable leaving someone else to bathe my children in the house alone.

KellyElly · 22/01/2013 15:42

Allaquandry or we could try this from a grandmother's perspective "My daughter has moved in boyfriend she has only been seeing for 6 months and is now letting him bathe my 7 year old granddaughter. I feel this is very inappropriate and that he shouldn't be left unsupervised in this situation. AIBU"

TroublesomeEx · 22/01/2013 15:43

My daughter is 6 and I wash her hair because it's very long but she washes herself.

atthewelles · 22/01/2013 15:45

It sounds totally inappropriate and very irresponsible of the mother to do this. Also, most guys I know would feel very uncomfortable being put in this situation. I would worry that the boyfriend, as well as the mother, saw nothing wrong with this.

SomeKindOfDeliciousBiscuit · 22/01/2013 15:49

Allaquandry to the mum I'd still say no, leave her alone. Better that she be a bit grubby til she gets the hang of it than naked for your boyfriend.

And women with children have to be extra careful when looking at partners because they are a group targeted by would be abusers. I remember my friend telling me about the summer she spent lying in a coal bin, hiding from her mum's boyfriend all day while her mum was out at work. This kind of shit is too commonplace to muck around with. He may be fine and lovely but it's not worth the chance.

BinarySolo · 22/01/2013 15:49

I didn't think he did get in the bath with her. Op didn't say that did she or I have I missed something?

I agree with Allaquandry. It very much depends I'd what the full picture was. Bf is 24 so I'm guessing not used to kids so might have thought she needed more help than she actually did. He may have just popped in, rinsed her hair then left. How did the girl feel about it? The mother is probably thinking that they are a family now as they live together and are expecting a new baby.

Did the bf ask to bath her, or did the mother ask him to do it? Saying "can you bath dd", would be different to "make sure dd has a bath".

CailinDana · 22/01/2013 15:51

Allaquandry - they have only been going out for 6 months. I know the pregnancy makes things a bit more serious, but I would be surprised if the new partner (man or woman) had even met the children, never mind be bathing them, after such a short time.

Cantbelieveitsnotbutter · 22/01/2013 15:55

No!
"Make sure she has a bath" yes

Surely he'd feel a bit awkward as well?!

ENormaSnob · 22/01/2013 15:57

Absolutely inappropriate.

Tbh I would have huge concerns over any man that was ok with this.

omri · 22/01/2013 15:57

no - awful - i am sure my 7 year old self would have felt enormously uncomfortable in that situation

TheSecondComing · 22/01/2013 15:58

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FeelingGuilty2013 · 22/01/2013 15:59

Agree with ENorma absolutely not and any man that thinks this is appropriate would also hugely concern me!

IneedAsockamnesty · 22/01/2013 15:59

As much as I think anybody who is not the child's actual parent should be assisting in the bathroom ( unless essential).

We have gone from helping a child wash her hair to he's in the bath with her call the police.

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