to think MN shouldn't support boots co-advertising newborn bottle sets and "follow on" milk

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when there's a national campaign on to promote BF?

Presumably this advert passes the letter of the law regarding the non-advertising/non-special offers on formula for new born's but it defies the spirit in every way possible.

AIBU to expect a little more social responsibility from MN?

Big criticising McDonald's,leapfrog advertising isn't criticising mums who give their kids HappyMeals,screen time then.

It's weird though. People generally don't seem to care half as much about older children getting fed an awful diet as bf v ff gubbins.

Just a musing there.

bigskidsdidit to state that ff is less healthy (one of the OP's earlier posts) is a pretty big criticism of parents who ff. To suggest otherwise is messing with semantics.

I dunno Pickles I've seen some real humdingers on here about older children's diets too, and some heartbreaking ones by parents of children who won't eat

feeding is so deeply rooted, it's the first things we do for our children and it's incredibly emotive.

Personally I don't think that's a good reason to steer clear of discussing feeding/eating and health though. It needs to be out in the open.

Pickled I actually know mothers who feed their kids utter shite that think because they were bf they are healthy.

I actually think the Breast milk as an elixir of life thing has gone too far in this country,I also read somewhere that the cost of malnourished babies from bfing goes widely unreported.

But it is less healthy on a population level

It just is

That's why advertising is banned for newborn formula.

Anyway I must cook Tea and not get sucked into this fascinating though it is

But it IS less healthy. It's a fact, not a suggestion. That doesn't mean there aren't particular circumstances in which it's the best or only option

but for those making the choice, it's insane to suggest that we should hush up discussion of the known facts and the range of views for fear of making people feel bad.

and LOL at Polkadot scraping the barrell for spurious claims about the evils of BF

must try harder

Not if you stick to guidelines when preparing formula and raise your kids with a healthy diet,non screen stimulation and plenty of exercise.

It's a marathon not a sprint.

Why i am on here I don't know I'm 35 weeks pregnant! I should be thinking peaceful thoughts

There you go it isn't spurious.

My daughter was in scbu for a week we got to know her consultant and other staff well,heard the same old story ie that they were inundated with malnourished breast fed babies.

It's weird though. People generally don't seem to care half as much about older children getting fed an awful diet as bf v ff gubbins.

Exactly Pickles

And look how many women are putting their babies and themselves at risk of death and medical conditions, because they choose to conceive while overweight/obese?

I've known people like that who have given birth and then banged on endlessly about 'giving baby the best start in life' because they chose to BF.

Well the baby's life starts in the womb so it's more than a tad hypocritical.

Oh, Pickled, it only gets worse!

"inundated with malnourished bf babies"

are you seriously suggesting that this is common enough to indicate that breastfeeding is less safe than formula feeding? I don't believe even you believe that.

And you know women who stuff their kids with crap safe in the knowledge that their children are mystically protected from harm by their infant breastfeeding?

Bullshit, and you know it. Not even terribly good bullshit.

Just as a side point there have been a few threads of late about not enjoying sex or decreased libido and quite a few posters saying they felt that way whilst breastfeeding. Now I'm well aware a thread on mn is not an in depth study but it got me thinking of the downside of bf and how none of it was ever discussed.

"inundated with malnourished breast fed babies"

Bollocks.

Anyhow my kids have nearly had their hour of screen time,off to make them get some exercise and more mentally stimulating.Also gotcto prepare a healthy homemade tea with several of their 5 a day-do I get a medal or is that only reserved for mothers of babies exclusively breast fed until they are 6 months old?

And it wasn't bollocks,I wish it was.

greensleeves there was a link posted a few pages back regarding malnourished bf babies....

I do agree that some mothers thing breast milk is the magical cute for everything and think it offers life long protection. I've met numptys like this!

Do you want a medal? Why? Do you think that is why women breastfeed?

That post had said more about you than all the other rubbish put together.

"to state that ff is less healthy (one of the OP's earlier posts) is a pretty big criticism of parents who ff."

• but it is less healthy

Certainly not saying it's less safe but simply that in this country the risks that do exist aren't discussed or reported enough.If they were my daughter for one wouldn't have ended up in scbu- so said my consultant.

PolkaDot I don't think they understand our sense of humour. They obvs weren't breastfed.

"inundated with malnourished breast fed babies"

That's just the kind of boobie-trapped tripe that scares would-be breastfeeders.

Whilst it may be less healthy,its not unhealthy or wrong.