'My kids never screamed like that' - old bag says loudly at the supermarket checkout...

[TeenTwinsToddlerandTiaras]

about my DS (2). He is a screamer and it drives me nuts. Not when it's just me and him but when my older DSs are anywhere near him - he wants what they've got, wants to do what they're doing. He's trying to dominate, it's the pack mentality!

He screamed around Tescos as he was in the trolley and he wanted to put the food in the trolley. He screamed at the checkout as he wanted OUT! Cue santimonious, smug middle aged woman making the above comment very loudly. I don't want him to scream either but short of putting a sock in it, what can I do? I should have asked her what her secret was but I just glared.

Really unnecessary comment that only made me feel more shit and stressed and angry.

BREATHE!!!!

just been to asda. no-one screamed. do you think its just a tesco thing?

If you call someone an old bag who is young, you are using it as an insult to imply that they are like an old woman, which by definition you are saying is a bad thing.

I can't believe I have to elucidate this.....

Years of past and present oppression/discrimination in the cases of disabled,gay and black people is what makes it different to me.

So old people haven't been marginalised or discriminated agianst? Really?

I don't see calling someone an "old bag" as being the same as calling someone a "queer" as being the same thing at all

As I and others have said, both are offensive terms based on a physical characteristic. They are EXACTLY the same thing.

Calling someone an old bag is simply rude. It's not discriminatory. Unlike sacking somebody because they are older,that actually is age discrimination

By that logic, calling a female employee 'split arse' is merely rude just so long as you don't sack them?

Seriously!!!

Trying to define 'old bag' !!!!

You are all bonkers

carefully uses non ageist, non sexist, non offensive term

Kobayashi, conversely old bag and old fart can be used as terms of endearment.

Calling an OLD woman OLD is not a crime. It's an adjective.

If she had called her 'A Bag'. Then not only would it not have made sense but it's not a very good insult.

Fucksakes, I didn't realise that everytime that we think of an insult for somebody that we had to research the precise etymology.

Bugger parenting, I am going to have enough issues trying to think of appropriate insults to use in everyday life that don't have any negative connotations.

Think I'll have my work cut out for me....

CaHoHoHootz. You are implying that we are all suffering from a mental illness. That is insulting and I demand that you think of something with absolutely no connotions whatsoever!

Absolutely ridiculous! There are far worse things going on in the world for you all to get so 'offended' by a post on a chat site! By the way, if she was the checkout operator then maybe she needs some training in customer service- she's not employed to hurl insults at people and try to make them feel inadequate.

Sorry, but it is hard to find a way to insult everyone without causing offence......

How about

'Stop wasting your time trying to define old bag you bunch of vipers'.

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Ignoring the argument about old bag...

Would nancy like to share her tips, how do you 'not let a child scream' if a baby or toddler is going to scream, in this case because he was in the trolley and not allowed out (note not running around screaming and being a pain as some have said) how do you not allow the screaming?

Babies cry, toddlers tantrum and scream
i am always sympathetic to parents when their children are crying (and grateful its not mine!)

But perhaps if nancy shares her marvellous parenting technique of not allowing crying/screaming then none of us will have to endure it again?!!

this is mumsnet at its worst, just out to jump on someone who happened to say something that didnt suit

Getting back to the point. Whenever I hear a child having a tantrum I always give the mum a sympathetic look. However, I can totally understand why the "old bag" found the child's screams incredibly irritating.

Now that DD is 12 and doesn't scream in supermarkets any more I am thankful that I have left that phase behind me. I can remember what it was like and know full well that you can't stop a toddler's tantrum in full flow, but also cringe when I hear that sound as it does go right through you. I would never criticise though.

Oh my feckin' God, is this really still going on?

I cannot believe that people have nothing better than to than try to define a tongue in cheek comment which was made amidst a but of stress.

Presumably when someone (inevitably) yells leave the Bastard on a mundane thread about a man doing something 'wrong' then I will expect an uprise of folk yelling right back with questions on whether or not he was born to unwed parents and if not then why were people being discriminatory towards children of single parents...

Then again that won't happen, will it?

Because that its acceptable discrimination to most of you!

Hypnotism and chocolate digestives

...goes off to google books on how to hypnotise a toddler...

:o

I was thinking perhaps organic flea food markets offered some sort of herbal remedies to sedate calm children so as not to bother the other rich folks who are too ignorant busy to deal with children.

Failing that the Nanny can always keep them entertained screaming at home.

peanut- in Wholefoods even the toddlers are dumbfounded by the prices

Might cost you the price of a new car for a month's shopping- but there will certainly be no shrieking!!

Actually there is. It's me at the till!

Being prejudiced against older people IS discrimination just as much as homophobia. Sneering and calling names because of a characteristic you can't help such as you sexuality, age, gender, race or disability is plain wrong and equally wrong for each category

Exactly. Try reading the list of protected characteristics as defined by the Equality Act 2010. Age is one of them.

Wondering what other prejudices you have? Ageism is the most stupid.

I wonder if the people who are so dismissive of people's concern about ageism would be so dismissive if we were complaining about someone saying "a mincing queer" or a "fucking paki" who'd said the same thing.

There's no difference to my eye.

There isn't any difference. Mumsnet and many posters are quite rightly supportive of respect to disability, sexuality, race and ethnicity. Age comes a long way behind in people's perception.

Wtf i was deleted?!! Ha ha ha. For asking a poster her marvellous parenting techniques and asking anothet poster not to tell her to fuck off.

5 - how date you defend another poster :o

I'm sorry I discriminated against twats...