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To have discplined my SILs children as she was doing nothing...??

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Shinyballsandtinsel · 15/12/2012 13:11

Two days ago, DH, me, our three DCs (9, 11, 13), granny, SIL and her two DCs went out for a meal in the evening (early about 7.00pm) for one of granny's landmark birthdays. We went to a chain pub, which later on turns into a club with bouncers on the door, no children after 9pm etc. It is in a town well known for stag/hen nights, however this time of year it is mostly Christmas parties.

It was very very busy, behind our table there were two long tables of about twenty people each, which looked like work do's. The bar was also very busy - there were steps leading down to the restaurant bit from the bar.

Our food arrived quite quickly. When we had finished our meal, we were waiting for the staff to bring plates for the birthday cake. My SILs older DC started running around and around the table very fast (aged 5yrs). SIL sat there doing nothing. Then the her younger DC started doing it also (aged 3yrs), whilst they were running the 3 year old ran into the legs of a fully laden waitress who nearly dropped all her plates. SIL still just sat there. They were running within close proximity of the people sitting on the end of the work do tables.

SIL was completely oblivious to it all, so I grabbed the 3yr old on his next run around, and plonked him down on a chair beside me, and said in quite a firm voice "sit down now, those people are having their dinner and Granny is about to have her cake". He immediately burst into tears, SIL glared at me, grabbed him on her lap. The 5 year old continued to run around the table, and then ran up the steps on her own into the bar area, my DH went to get her back, when she arrived back he put her onto her chair, she immediatley slid off under the table and started the running around thing again.

They have behaved like this before, I often make excuses for not going out when they are going to be there, as the children's behaviour, or rather the mother's complete oblivion to their behaviour actually winds me up. In the past she also literally just sits there whilst her children run around other people's tables, talk to strangers eating, ask if they can try some of their food (I kid you not!) and generally act as if they are in a playground. SIL has said in the past she thinks it cheers people up to see her kids smiley faces, and they are so freespirited and cute nobody could get annoyed with them..... Hence why I usually make my excuses, but as it was granny's landmark birthday couldn't get out of it.

Anyway, the saga continues - we all take it in turns to do Christmas dinner, this year is SILs turn to do it at her house. Today DH has received a telephone call to say that we are no longer invited for christmas day, as SIL is upset that I took it upon myself discipline her child, and it will ruin their Christmas if I do so again.

I am of the opinion that I am quite pleased not to have to go around there, and am happy to break away from the big family Christmas and start having Christmases at home with just our family, but Granny has now rung up very upset, and asked DH if I can apologise and make an excuse, i.e. say I was stressed at work or something.

I am not happy to do this, as I am not sorry. AIBU to not aplogise even though it will probably upset MIL?

OP posts:
MickeyTheShortOne · 17/12/2012 22:45

Well its taken me nearly an hour and a half to read this thread and I definately think
a) YWDNBU
b) "I would go round and kick her square in the cunt" was possibly the funniest thing I've ever read on MN, had I had a drink in my hand, my laptop would have broken.
c) your DH should win an award, 27 pages of undercutting, witty responses and a simple "fuck off you silly cow" will probably have te same effect! Oh the difference between men and women Xmas Wink

Please PLEASE keep us updated!!! Haahahahaahah!

Angelico · 17/12/2012 22:53

Any update? :o

Shinyballsandtinsel · 17/12/2012 22:53

All weekend I was feeling drained and on edge. My DH is sitting here happy as larry watching his IT Crowd DVD.

Obviously 25 pages of MN deliberations are completely OTT when a simple fuck off will suffice.

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MrsFlibble · 17/12/2012 22:55

Shiny, Yeah DH really does deserve a blowie, for taking the pressure off.

Shinyballsandtinsel · 17/12/2012 22:55

No update, she's obviously in shock and lost the ability to text - or she is starting an MN thread about her unreasonable SIL with robotic children!

OP posts:
Shinyballsandtinsel · 17/12/2012 22:56

mrsflibble don't overdo it, it's his pita family after all!!!!

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MrsFlibble · 17/12/2012 22:56

Shiny she'd get a flaming if she did.

MrsFlibble · 17/12/2012 22:57

Shiny, Good point, but the man did well.

DumSpiroSperHoHoHo · 17/12/2012 22:59

No update, she's obviously in shock and lost the ability to text

Be grateful for small mercies Grin

Good for you for standing your ground, and for your DH who frankly, rocks!

Greensleeves · 17/12/2012 22:59

How about a peace offering - send her a nice framed photo of your <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=r2d2+c3po+star+wars&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&biw=853&bih=415&tbm=isch&tbnid=ZAP-viCwLyqUJM:&imgrefurl=www.advancedgraphics.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp%3Fidcategory%3D725%26idproduct%3D777&docid=iVqP7ubjLGjNPM&imgurl=www.advancedgraphics.com/store/pc/catalog/825-c-3po-and-r2-d2_1382_general.jpg&w=331&h=500&ei=lqPPUPy0Ku6U0QX5yIGoDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=4&vpy=29&dur=801&hovh=276&hovw=184&tx=70&ty=211&sig=111046184312943349634&page=1&tbnh=140&tbnw=92&start=0&ndsp=11&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0,i:103" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">children

Startail · 17/12/2012 23:01

I wouldn't say sorry and I'd tell DMIL straight that I wasn't going to say sorry.

I instinctively discipline DCs, never worry at all if they aren't mine.

I forget we live in a weird new world where only parents may discipline their children and then without raising their voices or sounding in the least cross.

Many are totally ineffectual at this and opt not to bother, as they know their DCs will just ignore them and make them look stupid.

MrsFlibble · 17/12/2012 23:01

^^ Dressed as Robots lol

Greensleeves · 17/12/2012 23:02

MrsF, tis a linky...Grin

WhereYouLeftIt · 17/12/2012 23:03

" MIL tutted, and then said "Oh dear, but what can you do, we don't want to upset her". "
Now there's a comment that deserves a bitchslapping rebuttal. It's exactly that attitude that has produced your SIL's appalling behaviour.

I do wonder what's going through your SIL's mind right now. There was she, happily manipulating things to suit herself (MIL not allowed to see OP&family, without SIL&spawn being present; eating out uninterrupted by having to care for spawn; MIL not daring to do anything to upset her) and then YOU had the temerity to peeve her! So much so that glaring at you was not enough, she must TEACH YOU A LESSON - ah, uninvite OP for Christmas, that'll bring her into line! No, how dare she, she has still not apologised, actually seems PLEASED to not be coming to mine for Christmas Day, how very dare she! Hmm, will re-invite her, but make it clear that she is still AT FAULT. What? She has made other plans? Refused my invite? Shock And invited MIL for Boxing Day? But she KNOWS she's not allowed to see MIL without myself & spawn being there. Oh, OK, I'll go too, I suppose ... what do you mean, I'm not invited Shock Shock? Oh, my brother on the phone, I'll get him to make it all how I want ... what do you mean I'm not invited Shock Shock? I ALWAYS get my way . I'll talk him round, it always works ... what do you mean, fuck off Shock Shock Shock?

I think her head must be about ready to explode Grin. One minute she's ruling her world with an iron rod, the next it's all blown up in her face and she knows that it's all her own fault.

Since your DH has done such a sterling job on his sister, might I suggest it is time he tackles his mother? Smile

MrsFlibble · 17/12/2012 23:04

Green, I'd be tempted to do that, just for the fun of it.

Startail · 17/12/2012 23:04

Also I used to waitress in a cafe carrying trays with big multi person tea pots of scalding tea.

You can't see small DCs, they are below tray hight.

Shinyballsandtinsel · 17/12/2012 23:06

Haha greensleeves I can see the resemblance!

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pixwix · 17/12/2012 23:07

She then asked what to do about our kids presents (new batteries I expect)

Classic! Xmas Grin

gimmecakeandcandy · 17/12/2012 23:10

Op - don't you dare not update us... everyday! Grin

This has gotta be one of the best threads of 2012?!

MrsFlibble · 17/12/2012 23:13

Shiny, gotta ask, AA, AAA, C or D batteries.

Angelico · 17/12/2012 23:16

I think Whereyouleftit has read your SIL's mind with uncanny precision...

Ruprekt · 17/12/2012 23:30

I love ShinyDH!!

What a great thread! Just read the whole thing.

Nicdigby · 17/12/2012 23:50

Just spent an hour and a half reading this thread. There are some absolute classics in here, v funny. I know someone just like your SIL Shiny; in fact I think it might actually BE her. 😀

ReallyNotTotallyStupidPromise · 18/12/2012 00:28

because we don't want you to
fuck off you silly cow

I think I've just fallen in love with your DH Xmas Grin He should run classes for other DH's - go that man!!

As an aside - I do so love it when someone wades in who hasn't read the thread Xmas Grin

Bogeyface · 18/12/2012 00:44

You wait a whole year for a good outlaws thread and then 2 come along at once :o But then I suppose Xmas is the traditional time for it!

YOu read so many threads on here about men who will cheerfully reduce their wife to tears rather than upset their mother/sister/best friend/dog that it is wonderful to read about a real man who will do the right thing.

But also slightly sad that there seem to be so few of them around. Hang onto him OP, he is a keeper!

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