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Original poster

To wonder when they will ban guns in USA

190 replies

sannaville · 14/12/2012 19:28

Those poor children at Conneticut school :( They mustve been absolutely petrified. When will the USA learn from these horrific shootings and out a ban on guns

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maxmillie · 14/12/2012 21:20

Even if that was true, which I doubt ( the batman cinema jointer had bought his guns legally with correct permits), if I decided to do thi I wouldn't be able to because noone I know here in the uk owns guns.

MrsReiver · 14/12/2012 21:20

That says it all Probation & bloody well said Tee.

maxmillie · 14/12/2012 21:21

Shooter

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sannaville · 14/12/2012 21:21

Tee very well said! This will carry on for future generations unless something is done to stop this now!

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Thisisaeuphemism · 14/12/2012 21:21

It is terrible. Heart-breaking.

I would also like to see a change in the media reaction to these shootings. I don't want to see his face plastered over the papers tomorrow - like some kind of hero/anti-hero.
I don't want to see charts of where his killing ranks.
He should be treated like the cunt he is. I think some disenfranchised people think this is a great way to gain noteriety. (sp?) Let's not give them that.

NatashaBee · 14/12/2012 21:22

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WelshMaenad · 14/12/2012 21:23

Probably a hugely unpopular viewpoint, but infontbthink there should be a ban. I don't think it will make a difference to events like these. I didn't agree with the UK ban either.

MurderOfGoths · 14/12/2012 21:26

"I've got a gun and so have my parents so fuck everybody else."

That's it isn't it?

It's totally selfish. They like owning guns, and somehow their non-essential desire for guns is more important than other people's right to not be shot.

They ignore that carrying weapons statistically puts them at more rather than less risk.

They ignore that many of the killings are by people who have completely legitimate access to guns (thanks to some stupid fucking gun laws).

Instead they pat themselves on the back and justify the easy access to a deadly weapon by saying, "well, I wouldn't shoot 5 year olds, only bad gun owners would do that". Because somehow that makes it alright. Somehow that makes the preventable deaths of innocents less tragic.

Iggly · 14/12/2012 21:27

Guns are there to kill. They serve no other purpose. Let's not pretend otherwise.

I can't read the details of the story.

It is sickening. Anyone who can excuse the fact that it is legal to own a murder weapon is Hmm

What a fucked up country.

RafaellaNhaKyria · 14/12/2012 21:28

Does owning matches make someone an arsonist?

MurderOfGoths · 14/12/2012 21:30

"If he managed to obtain the gun from someone who didn't do that, it's inexcusable, and they are responsible too."

Oh well, in that case, I'm sure that'll ease the grief of the victims families. Hmm If guns weren't so readily available then situations like that could be prevented

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sannaville · 14/12/2012 21:31

Rafaella totally ridiculous statement. A gun does devastating and fatal damage to many people. A match does not!!

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Iggly · 14/12/2012 21:31

Don't equate matches to a gun.

Guns have one purpose. To kill. You don't use them to help you cook for example now do you...?!

TheMysteryCat · 14/12/2012 21:31

The sole purpose of a gun is to kill

Matches have multiple uses. It would be a misuse to use matches to kill.

To use a gun to kill, is fulfilling the purpose of the item.

TheMysteryCat · 14/12/2012 21:32

There are countless exam

ProbationProbationProbation · 14/12/2012 21:32

But there's legal gun ownership in the sense of your humble British farmer and then there are ASSAULT RIFLES. Who in their right mind needs access to those sorts of weapons??

RafaellaNhaKyria · 14/12/2012 21:34

All I meant was that it's a small fraction of us gun owners who have ever or would ever do something so heinous. And those that would, I believe, would obtain a gun illegally to commit their crime. Making something illegal doesn't make it disappear.

WelshMaenad · 14/12/2012 21:34

The purpose of a gun is to shoot a bullet.

People can and do shoot for sport, at paper targets, and never kill a human or animal, or have any desire to. People like me and my dad, for example.

It's an Olympic sport. Are all the Olympian target shooters closet murders?

RafaellaNhaKyria · 14/12/2012 21:34

US

Meglet · 14/12/2012 21:34

They won't Sad.

Someone might try and break into my house tonight, I don't have a gun....and as I'm in the UK neither will they. I'd rather take my chance against a knife or fists, rather than a gun.

WelshMaenad · 14/12/2012 21:35

MurderERs, even.

TheMysteryCat · 14/12/2012 21:35

Butter fingers!

There are countless examples of accidental deaths by firearms, including one horrific case of a child accidentally shooting herself and classmates at school with ther uncle's gun. I think the children were 5/6 years old.

Doesn't matter how fucking safe or responsible you think you are with a gun; it's other people and the damage that can be done to them as much as anything else.

Iggly · 14/12/2012 21:36

Guns are there to kill. Ok I will back down slightly on the sport bit but I'm not going to be persuaded that gun ownership should be widespread and legalised. They are weapons.

Meglet · 14/12/2012 21:36

Don't farmers have high suicide rates or something, mainly because they own guns? Or is it an outdated urban myth?

TheMysteryCat · 14/12/2012 21:36

raefaella it has made a difference in uk gun crime levels. You're argument has no evidence or substance to it