To feel sorry for the Australian DJs?

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Obviously more sorry for the nurse's family. I wonder how long she was having suicidal thoughts for? I can't think this could have been the only cause,

But these pranks have been going on for such a long time and those DJs could not have predicted such a result and are going to have to live with it for the rest of their lives.

It's such a tragedy and I feel very sad for all concerned.

Well, as so many people think publicly humiliating people and broadcasting their errors has SUCH unforeseeable consequences, may I politely suggest the following as potentially foreseeable consequences in ANY such future scenario....

The aforementioned victims of trickery get upset.
They might lose their jobs.
They may feel immense shame.
Or fear.
Or guilt.
Or remorse.

How they handle those possible feelings may be different from the way you would handle them. Some people may get over this. Some may not.

Hope that helps everyone who hasn't yet learned that tricking, humiliating and publicly exposing people can have devastating consequences.

What nonsense to suggest that most sentient adults cannot foresee the consequences of something like this. It doesn't require a bloody brainstorming session.

My five year old can empathise enough to understand that if you trick someone into doing something wrong and then tell everyone about it they will feel very very very bad.

What nonsense to suggest that most sentient adults cannot foresee the consequences of something like this. It doesn't require a bloody brainstorming session.
verylittlecarrot

I don't agree it's nonsense. I think, in any proper conversation prior to this broadcast someone should have had the sense to say 'hang on, this could get someone into trouble' or 'hold on a minute. We could be seriously embarassing someone here'. I would not expect, in a million years, that someone would say 'hang on, someone might commit suicide as a result of this stupid prank'.
It is a totally unforeseen consequence that has shocked everyone.

I was told by panda to behave myself and that I was taking it too far what do you expect me to respond yo that with?

In my shoes as the mother of a 20 year old boy that throws himself off a cliff do you honestly think that you would be so understanding and rational?

Do you? Don't fucking patronise me.

*Why do people think it's ok to keep highlighting me?

I am not the only one on any of the many threads regarding this who have no empathy for the dj's*

With apologies for highlighting you (literally in this case) but no, you are not the only one.

I haven't had the awful experience you have. I have experienced suicide, but not in my family, not of someone I loved.

I too cannot feel any sympathy for the DJs. I have actually tried, but no, I cannot muster any up.

Everlong, I think some of the comments you have received here have been totally unfair, and uncalled for. Maybe instead of trying to change your mind, some of the posters expressing sympathy or empathy for the DJs should try and show you some, and get off your case.

(But TBH, I do wish you would hide this thread, for your own sake. I know this is a subject dear to your heart, for the most shitty of reasons, but I don't think it can be doing you any good. Please consider, just for your own peace of mind)

Well, how do people usually respond to serious embarrassment, or getting into trouble at work, or losing their jobs? What about when that is coupled with the entire world knowing what you did, and your VOICE being recorded for posterity and available ad infinitum for everyone to hear you screwing up?

I ask again, what emotions COULD they have foreseen this causing? And how much knowledge of human nature is required to imagine that some people might take it very badly?

Seriously, what did they foresee?

thanks eve you are right I know that. I did stay away for a good while yesterday but then saw Jacintha's daughter on the front page and it got to me. Then came on here and saw that people are still defending them.

I'm ok. I'm stubborn I suppose and won't back down much to my detriment.

I just wish people would think before they post sometimes.

I was told by panda to behave myself and that I was taking it too far what do you expect me to respond yo that with?

In fairness, she said that in response to you ordering her to be quiet before you said something you wouldn't regret.

I think people are honing in on your posts because of the level of aggression and anger in them (both towards the hoaxers and other posters). Moreover, you only seem to be getting more and more angry as the thread continues, not less so.

verylittlecarrot, I agree with everything you have posted.

I just wish people would think before they post sometimes

and me love, and me...

I think people are honing in on your posts because of the level of aggression and anger in them (both towards the hoaxers and other posters). Moreover, you only seem to be getting more and more angry as the thread continues, not less so. Quote

I agree with this. People who are trying to be balanced and express some sympathy for the djs while also not condoing what they did are not making a personal attack on you Everlong. Of course you are entitled to feel very very strongly about this issue. But I also think the djs in question are entitled to some balanced commentary on what they did and people are entitled to provide that commentary without being effed and blinded at. I respect your right to have a strong view on this, but I also have a right to comment on the matter as I see it.

I was just considering this.
Most burglars I assume are after a quick loot and getaway. They give no thought and have no empathy with their victims, but probably don't intend them actual physical harm either.
A very likely outcome of a burglary is that someone will be very distressed as a result of your actions.
However, it's obvious that some burglaries do end up with the fatal heart attack of the poor surprised occupant.
You burgle enough houses, and someone might die as a result of your choices. It's an unlikely but very foreseeable consequence. And I bet every burglar has thought about that at some point.

If you cause people unnecessary embarrassment, vulnerability, humiliation, shock, loss, or pain, you may end up with an unlikely, but absolutely foreseeable consequence. Which may be far worse than your "acceptable risk assessment" but a real possibility nevertheless.

Everlong Yes, other people are criticising the radio station but it is the tone and aggression (towards both the djs and myself and other posters) that I don't like. I realise you're upset, but directly swearing at other posters calling them weird because they don't agree with you, or insisting that anyone who disagrees with your posts (on a public forum that you have chosen to participate on) is 'heartless' etc is not fair.

So what if I don't hold suicide supremacy. Of course I don't. And I would bet my house that anyone whose child had killed themselves wouldn't have the same view as you. What a weird thing to say.

I am airing my views. If you don't like them so what. I don't care.

Such a condescending attitude.

And as for not being sure of Jacintha's family's feelings. What a ridiculous thing to say.

So how do you think they are feeling then if it's different from my perception?

Have the station or the DJs made any comments regarding the other, surviving nurse? Have they apologised to her? Have they apologised to Kate Middleton? Do they admit what they did was wrong? I'm not sure, can someone enlighten me please?

Or are they just sorry they are getting a backlash?

Ah I get it.

This isn't about a debate. It's just trying to make me blow.

The continuous digs about my anger.

Well thanks a bunch. Kick a dog while it's down. Shameful.

eve thank you.

Please leave Everlong alone. Her suffering is immense. She cannot handle threads were suicide comes up. It is really sad.

Not even threads were mums are concerned because their own child is suicidal.
It goes the same way.

LtX That has got to be the most childish post I've read on here in a long while.

I do feel very sorry for her Gold. But I also think those DJs deserve fair and balanced commentary. They are human too and we don't know how awful they could be feeling.