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To feel sorry for the Australian DJs?

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andapartridgeinaRowantree · 08/12/2012 00:38

Obviously more sorry for the nurse's family. I wonder how long she was having suicidal thoughts for? I can't think this could have been the only cause,

But these pranks have been going on for such a long time and those DJs could not have predicted such a result and are going to have to live with it for the rest of their lives.

It's such a tragedy and I feel very sad for all concerned.

IceTheChristmasKateMumsnet · 10/12/2012 11:13

Morning everyone,

We understand that this is the kind of thread where people feel very strongly, but we'd just like to remind you of our talk guidelines

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet · 10/12/2012 12:01

@QuickLookBusy

Just seen the deletions.

It's very telling that some of Everlong's posts have also been deleted, whilst the person saying unpleasant things about a dead woman have all been allowed to stand.Angry

TantrumRun, have you just joined MN or have you name changed?

QuickLookBusy: everlong's posts were deleted because they contained a personal attack.

As NewKateMumsnet has already posted, we do realise this is a highly emotive thread but we do ask everyone to stick to our Talk Guidelines.

If there are any other posts that you think break our Guidelines, do please report them to us. We're always happy to take a look - and if we've missed any, we will do our best to rectify that ASAP.

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet · 10/12/2012 12:14

@natation

I would interpret some posts which are still standing as a personal attack on a dead person and her family. They could also be construed as highly offensive for those bereaved as a result of suicide. Can you really not see that too moderators? Or is it ok to attack a dead person?

We're happy to look at any of those posts, natation - do report them to us (and we'll look through the thread again now)

But, just so everyone is clear what our guidelines are about...

  • The rule about no personal attacks primarily applies to Mumsnetters on this thread (or a clearly identifiable MNer or group of MNers).

  • We completely understand that there are posts on this thread that could be highly offensive for those bereaved as a result of suicide (as, indeed, at least one of us at MNHQ has been) but it has never been our policy to delete offensive posts (unless they're truly beyond the pale).

The truth is, as we always say to those who are offended by posts on MN, we don't think we should be the arbiters of what people should find offensive and what they shouldn't. More to the point, it's very rare that a tasteless comment is left unchallenged: as this thread amply demonstrates.

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet · 10/12/2012 12:21

@EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin

Santa rarely I've called someone something knowing it would be deleted but not caring because I was so mad.

But in this case I was mindful of not purposely called a certain someone anything. But obviously the powers that be think otherwise.

Everlong, we know that's certainly true of you almost all the time.

But on this thread, you were deleted for calling someone "a disgrace" and for saying she was "winding people up. maybe you get off on it"

If you had said her posts were disgraceful, that would have been fine. But by calling her a disgrace, you attacked her personally.

Hope that clarifies things a little.

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet · 10/12/2012 12:22

@natation

aha so the dead woman is not on mumsnet so it's ok to attack what she did, ok I understand now.

Not necessarily. As we said, we'll review those posts. But, if they are deleted, it will be because we deem them "beyond the place" rather than a personal attack on another MNer.

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet · 10/12/2012 12:24

@EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin

So we can't call someone a fucking cowbag for posting something extremely vile? But their posts are left to stand?

How is this fair mnhq?

No you can't because you are breaking the rules too.

But you can attack her posts and say they're 'fucking vile'.

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet · 10/12/2012 12:25

@HeftyHeifer

I came back hoping to see the thread back to a sensible place of discussion of what's a very sensitive topic. Sadly mistaken. It seems that posters are allowed to come onto a thread with offensive AND provocative statements in their posts which are clearly intended to wreak havoc and cause a lot of upset, then disappear after a feeble attempt at trying to explain some of their heinous comments and 'get away with it'.

HeftyHeifer, you can be 100% sure that if we thought someone was coming onto a thread with the clear intention of 'wreaking havoc', we would be, at the very least, dropping them a mail. At the very least.

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet · 10/12/2012 12:33

@SantaFrontPaws

On the thread which I was on and deleted (as we're quite a few people) lots of people did report the OP as it was clearly a piss take. S/he was having a go at everyone and being rude, ignorant and some posters were really pouring our their hearts online in the hope of helping her/him out. The OP wasn't deleted but the thread eventually did go 'puf'.

Which thread, SantaFrontPaws?

LittleTownofBethleHelenMumsnet · 10/12/2012 12:35

@EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin

God I'm almost laughing. I called someone a disgrace and it warrants being deleted. I've seen a million times worse left to stand.

Maybe so. But we can only act on what's reported to us. And this thread has been.

We hope you'll understand that, once we've been alerted to a thread, we can't overlook a post that breaks our rules, however much we might understand the feelings that triggered it.

RowanMumsnet · 11/12/2012 15:13

Hello

We know how high feelings are running here, but we'd be really grateful if people could refrain from personally attacking other posters.

Thanks
MNHQ

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