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To feel sorry for the Australian DJs?

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andapartridgeinaRowantree · 08/12/2012 00:38

Obviously more sorry for the nurse's family. I wonder how long she was having suicidal thoughts for? I can't think this could have been the only cause,

But these pranks have been going on for such a long time and those DJs could not have predicted such a result and are going to have to live with it for the rest of their lives.

It's such a tragedy and I feel very sad for all concerned.

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Hulababy · 09/12/2012 18:22

Oh come on - you cannot lay the blame on the royal family for this!
There may be many people at fault here - I don't see how the royals involved can be part of that though.

GalaxyDisaster · 09/12/2012 18:27

YANBU to have sympathy for them, but personally I have none. I do think, though, that there should be more focus on the editorial team around them.

This radio station decided to take a hospital admission for a serious condition (bear in mind, before drips, etc, people died of HG. Charlotte Bronte is believed to have done). They knew nothing about the rest of her condition - she could have been miscarrying, or dangerously close to organ failure, for all they knew.

They decided that someone in that position was an appropriate focus for a prank. Somehow, because she was royal/famous, she was not a person. Would you 'prank' a friend or relative in those circumstances, even if they liked jokes?

They then decided that it was ok to involve staff at the hospital in their 'prank' by calling them. Even on the best case scenario for the hospital, they would have wasted the time of hospital staff.

They called, and they heard what happened. Personal details of a sick woman were revealed (even if most of it was in the public domain as, thankfully, it was good news). A second's pause at that point would have made them realise that nothing good could happen for the staff involved. The apparent suicide was not foreseeable, but shame, and embarrassment and ridicule were all obvious consequences. So they thought it was ok to publicly shame and humiliate someone. Disciplinary action against the staff could easily have followed. Likewise, how does it make someone who has spent the last x days chucking her guts up until dangerously dehydrated feel that her condition has been the focus of such hilarity.

Knowing that, they went ahead and broadcast, trailed, promoted and boasted about their 'prank'. They said 'oops, sorry' when challenged, but continued to promote, and brag, about the prank. Until the awful news.

All those at the station involved have been guilty of treating the nurse, the staff and the royals as 'non persons' just because of the press interest in the pregnancy. They treated them in a way you would never treat someone you knew, in a way you would never want anyone to treat your mum, or sister, or friend. I hate all 'pranks', but it's just not the same as convincing Justin Beiber he's promoting trainers with a rude name or whatever. It was deeply cruel from the outset.

And because it was cruel from the outset, I don't really have much sympathy with the (admittedly unforeseeable) consequences. Because when you are cruel to people, sometimes you hurt them more than you realise.

As for those who said, 'Charles was laughing about it', I expect he felt he had no choice but to laugh along. I knew bullies at school who did this. Played nasty tricks on people and, if you didn't laugh, you 'had no sense of humour'. It was their automatic joke. 'Duh, it was a joke, can't you take a joke'. If Charles had said 'well actually no, what they did was despicable' he would have made this into a bigger story than it was at the time "Charles condemns prank call" headlines. So my guess is he smiled and joked as the least worst way to answer.

giveitago · 09/12/2012 19:53

YANBU as that's your view.

I personally have no symapthy for the two. They played a prank, they revelled and capitalised on the fact it went global. The got publicity for the show/station. Then it went wrong.

I'd hope that the hospital that's going to deliver this baby puts in procedures so that staff are not put in this position again.

flippinada · 09/12/2012 20:03

Galaxy what an excellent post. Says it all.

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Shelly32 · 09/12/2012 20:13

Most mothers suffer morning sickness. If you milk it, you suffer ridicule. I know people (not me as I didn't suffer one ounce) who could have been admitted to hospital but suffered on through..

Shelly32 · 09/12/2012 20:14

Oh okay, I must be a bully. STFU?? Classy!

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echt · 09/12/2012 20:15

shelly, so you're OK with people getting private information about a patient. Hmm

GalaxyDisaster · 09/12/2012 20:16

Morning sickness? Milking it? Kate was diagnosed with hyperemesis gravida. Did you read the bit where I wrote that, pre medical advances like drips it used to kill people.

EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin · 09/12/2012 20:16

Very classy but that's beside the point.
My son killed himself so little quotes like yours get under my skin.

Shelly32 · 09/12/2012 20:17

No but it was a one off prank. Plus, go on Google/Yahoo/FB you can find anything about anyone. Boo hoo if you happen to be a Royal (by marriage).

Hulababy · 09/12/2012 20:18

But she wasn't "just" suffering from morning sickness. She has HG which is far more. It isn't always possible to just soldier on - dehydration can be very serious, esp in a pregnant woman. Sometimes the medical profession do know best and being in hospital is necessary.

It was a stupid "prank" that was always going to cause hurt and humiliation. We teach children to think first and to then own up if things go wrong and to take responsibility for their actions, even when things have gone wrong and even if not intentionally.

This went badly wrong. The humilation would have been bad enough, but this was just horrendously wrong. The radio station - and not just the DJs involved - need to take action and try and help make some form of amends for what they have caused.

Chubfuddler · 09/12/2012 20:19

You don't generally speaking find people's medical history on google.

Hulababy · 09/12/2012 20:20

Shelly32 - it was NOT a one off prank. The radio station involved had form and have already been in trouble with their so called pranks. They made a 14 year old old child go on a lie detector which resulted int he child ending up needing to admit, on air, that she'd been raped when she was 12y.

You really feel the radio station needs defending when they most certainly do not do these things as one off errors???

Shelly32 · 09/12/2012 20:20

Everlong No offence. Sorry. It's not a laughing matter and you've actually made me feel very sad. No words will ever make up for that. I never made light of the fact she died. It's tragic. I just think there was no need,esp not over overblown self important royals.

Hulababy · 09/12/2012 20:21

I know my own name, address, paieint number, etc.
Even with that information I can find no reference to my own patient/medical records online, especially via google. etc

OhDearNigel · 09/12/2012 20:22

Well Shelley, its unfortunate but someone did get hurt. Would you think that a drink driver shouldn't be prosecuted if they said " I didn't mean to do it, didn't plan to hurt anyone" ?

Your suggestion that the nurse simply took herself too seriously is highly offensive. You have no idea what repercussions losing her job or being struck off could have meant for her family. For all you know losing her job could have ended up with them on the street.

giveitago · 09/12/2012 20:23

Shelly - what do you have against this nurse?

EverlongLovesHerChristmasRobin · 09/12/2012 20:24

shelly you said ' it was a joke, if people didn't take themselves too seriously nobody would get hurt ' I found that very hurtful. Hurtful for that nurse and for her family.

GalaxyDisaster · 09/12/2012 20:25

Oh goodness. I hadn't noticed Shelly's first post. So a suicidal nurse 'took herself too seriously'. Words fail me.

Hulababy · 09/12/2012 20:26

I have a feeling Shelley's real gripe is at the Royals and she feels that this has happened because of them, not because of the stupidity and arrogance of the radio station and its DJs.

flippinada · 09/12/2012 20:28

I expect Shelly thought she was being a bit sharp and provocative, but didn't think it through.