to want answers to these S&B questions?

[HullyEastergully]

Why are:

1. Certain items of clothing = "mumsy" eg bootcuts, tunics, some boots but not others (forget which)

1. Short wide jumpers are inherently better than others

1. Anyone over a size 12 = fat

1. Fat = mumsy

1. That thinking the above makes you a cleverer and more knowing alnd all-round better person with a slight pitying disdain for those that don't agree.

Lastly I would like a definition of "Mumsy" and why it is an insult.

Thank you.

I agree! I'm not all that happy with my shape but I have just bought a purple dress (which is utterly shapeless btw), and the colour of it and the softness just make me happy. Which is better than wearing something that doesn't even do that, IMO.

Laptop go to TKMaxx and just try on loads and loads of different stuff, look in the men's section too for nice soft jumpers. Don't look at prices. Don't just try on one thing on it's own, try it with different things. See what you like, then if it costs too much buy the bits you can afford and look in charity shops for others. Try men's jeans too. Look in kids section and at kids shoes, boots.

Let's do it LRD I've spotted a gorgeous in my uninformed opinion purple duffle coat which is on my Christmas list!

Ooh, ok.

I think the tunic thing is more a reaction to shops like white stuff having acres if the things in questionable prints as charging insecure women a fortune for scrappy fabrics and cuts. In dont really think about it much when I am out and about, we are not harridans pointing and staring in the streets. The size question was brought up by people wanting to know what to wear if they are a size twenty two. The op didn't have a clue I suggest women work it out for themselves.

Right I'm confused now. Bootcut jeans are out of fashion? Are they supposed to be in fashion? I was under the impression they are a cut designed to suit women with a certain shape (i.e. me). See this is why fashion is stupid. If it suits my shape who gives a fuck fig about what's in??

I'm happy with my Primarni clobber

Well, here's another thread-about-a-thread. Or a thread-about-a-thread-about-a-thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/1630384-Gorgeous-winter-coats-past-and-present-inspire-me

lost - erm, no, funnily enough I don't think the sneering on S&B is made up or bullying either, but thanks for that little dig.

I think S&B is absolutely lovely but I thought that thread was oddly out of character and nasty.

lost one poster admitted to being sneery about anyone who didn't know bootcuts are out of fashion so not made up.

I'm probably dressed in everything S&B class as "mumsy" seven days a week.

I'm 29, 5'11", massive boobs, stomach and hips, 36" legs, on crutches 90% of the time. I look like a baby giraffe that's swallowed a baby hippo. I really dislike the bitchiness of fashion but I like the idea of not looking as randomly put together as I am. I just haven't a clue what would suit me.

I tend to stick to leggings/tunics/dresses/DM boots (how I adore my DM boots) because I like them. Yes, I like the idea of being more elegant/sorted but I have neither the patience, the energy to traipse round shops (my idea of hell) nor the money to change my entire wardrobe every few months.

not meant as a dig - I honestly don't go to S&B much so don't know - do think people massively overreact to perceived slights on fwr - just wondering - the "bullying" was about the made up bullying on fwr not about this

I really hate bitchiness and would be the first to flee from S and B if there were any, but I don't think there is!

Me too - S and B is a great place and full of really helpful info.

Ok, to be honest it felt quite like a dig, as did the whole of your post.

If you've not read the thread, maybe that'd be the place to start, as people have explained why they felt a bit upset and given the examples you're asking for.

Maybe people do overreact, but I think it's not particularly awful to discuss things. Some S&B regs (or I assume they are) have explained stuff in their usual pretty calm way, FWIW.

If you want to talk about FWR don't let me put you off starting a new thread, but this feels awfully like trying to start a thread-about-threads under the radar, which is a bit cheeky, no?

See this is why fashion is stupid. If it suits my shape who gives a fuck fig about what's in??

I think this is the difference between being fashionable, and being stylish. One is about being an individual, and the other about looking like everyone else, regardless............

Mumsy to me is comfy looking clothes, fleeces, bootleg jeans, waterproof jacket, tunics, white blouses with colourful beads, not much makeup, might be plump, those bags with the little dog hanging off it, a line cord skirts, fly boots, walking gear for everyday.

That sort of stuff.

I haven't RTFT but I suspect you are all cunts. Except those of you who aren't. Or are doing it on purpose. You're OK.

Wow - just skimmed the other thread, I am on S and B every day a lot and tbh don't recognise any regular posters. Nasty thread and ime not what S and B is usually about at all.

Sorry forgot to say I have to go out now but if anyone cares might be back later (no, didn't think you did)

Other thread is nasty - just to clarify!

And most people tend to react angrily when falsely accused.

it's annoying.

Why did you mention it then, except as a cheap dig?

Asking a question when you admit you couldn't be bothered to read a thread is arrogant.

I'm interested valium reckons it's not S&B regs. Not a surprise I guess - it doesn't sound like them at all!

S&B MNers found me my wedding dress, helped me work out how to dye my hair, and are unfailingly sweet and kind even when I say stuff about using almond oil instead of fancy cream on my hands, or when they know I witter on elsewhere about not shaving my legs.

I think they are lovely.