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Miss Dickson Wright - what a nasty vicious racist woman she is!

407 replies

vivizone · 17/11/2012 01:46

Well she fits in very well with the DM ethos.

Disgusting person

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233958/One-Fat-Lady-race-row-Muslim-ghetto-jibe-The-Islamic-area-Leicester-frightened-says-TV-chef.html

OP posts:
thebody · 17/11/2012 16:57

I think not reading the daily mail is a bit silly to be honest. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't buy it as too tight to buy any newspaper and all have an agenda.

It's just the Muslims turn to be the bogey people now.

It has been in the past the Irish, blacks, gypsies( still is) welsh and scots( ongoing jokes).

Britain is a far more tolerant society than most thank God but we must be careful to not marginalise or trivialise anybodies beliefs or opinions as that is not only unfair but dangerous.

We all saw how ridiculous nick griffin was by hearing him on TV.

We need to hear and acknowledge all views as to ignore tensions leads to resentment and conflict.

GothAnneGeddes · 17/11/2012 17:05

I wish some people on this thread would understand that being British has nothing to do with what you wear, what you eat, what language you speak and who you marry.

It's the underlying attitude that anyone not clearly Anglo-Saxon is only in the UK due to the "generosity" of the "truly British" and should therefore consider themselves cringingly grateful.

SuzySuzSuz · 17/11/2012 17:10

Good point thebody

OldMumsy · 17/11/2012 17:12

Well said DownTheRabidHole.

thebody · 17/11/2012 17:30

Goth see your point and agree but I have to say that I am 'cringingly grateful' to live in a country that allows us to spout all our views, whatever they may be, without arrest, prison, torture or death.

Aboutlastnight · 17/11/2012 17:42

As an aside, I thought we did have Sharia courts which sort out financial disputes, muslim women who want divorce etc - am I wrong?

PlantsDieArid · 17/11/2012 17:56

I wish some people on this thread would understand that being British has nothing to do with what you wear, what you eat, what language you speak and who you marry.

Out of interest, what does 'being British' have to do with then?

Only, I spent my childhood living all over the world and as an adult lived and worked in many countries, from the Middle East to the West Indies and Europe and Asia. And, almost without fail, my local friends would happily and passionately define their national identity by cuisine, traditional dress, local words and dialect. Not so much the marrying thing!

They showed equal interest in what I chose to eat and wear and the languages I speak. I have a friend staying at the moment from Holland who has followed this thread with interest; she wants to know what does being British have to do with if not those things?

Softlysoftly · 17/11/2012 18:04

Being born here and adhering to the laws of this country.

Everything else is up for the melting pot IMHO.

Softlysoftly · 17/11/2012 18:05

About a lot of Muslims go to their imams for mediation/disputes first but they have no actual applicable legality.

FromEsme · 17/11/2012 18:08

What the hell is British cuisine? The most popular meals out are Indian, Chinese and Italian!

As for traditional dress - well, I'm Scottish so I guess there's an argument that we have a traditional dress although it is pretty plastic. But I have no idea what traditional English dress might be.

To me, being British is, like softlysoftly says being born in this country, or becoming a citizen. Sticking to our laws. I don't think dancing round a maypole is required.

lovelyladuree · 17/11/2012 18:11

There are areas in London where a white woman stands out like a sore thumb. And gets stared out. There are ghettos, she is correct. Sounds like she has ventured further than some DM readers.

FromEsme · 17/11/2012 18:12

Tell me those areas, lovelyladuree because I'm yet to come across them.

Go on, just name one of them.

PlantsDieArid · 17/11/2012 18:23

Fromesme, they meant what we ate at home, not much eating out in my 1970s childhood. So, with no irony whatsoever, I told them about roast beef and yorkshires, my granny's trifles, sweets from the corner shop, blackberry jam, toast, beans, fish fingers, stew and dumplings, chicken pie. I remember my mum making trifle for my friends in Trinidad who wanted to taste British food.

They wanted to know what we wore in the rain, when it snowed, that kind of thing. They loved it if my dad put his kilt on!

I've never danced round a maypole, and I don't know anyone who has, but I do think it's a charming thing to watch. Visitors from abroad seem to love it.

AmberLeaf · 17/11/2012 18:24

Yes as a Londoner I'd be interested to hear where those areas are too.

FromEsme · 17/11/2012 18:26

Who eats like that now? I think we have a far more cosmopolitan outlook to food these days. Thank God, I can't imagine even beginning to want to eat a fish finger.

If a tradition only exists to make visitors from abroad smile, how the hell is it British?

We wear the same shit in the rain anyone else does. A jacket. And lately wellies, but that's more a fashion thing.

I don't get what any of this has to do with being British apart from a misty-eyed sentimentality for a land that never existed.

seeker · 17/11/2012 18:29

We're having jellied eels tonight........

SuzySuzSuz · 17/11/2012 18:33

Sounds like she has ventured further than some DM readers

Probably not the best compliment in the world......!

Abra1d · 17/11/2012 18:44

Actually being British has a lot to do with speaking English, if not as a mother tongue than to conversational levels. I am the daughter of an immigrant and feel strongly this is the case.

Tonight we are having an eastern European starter and a north African main course.

Abra1d · 17/11/2012 18:48

Sorry, missed out adjective: culturally, before 'British'. You can obviously be legally British.

PlantsDieArid · 17/11/2012 18:53

Fromesme, please don't be so sneeringly dismissive of my culture. I wouldn't dream if being so bigoted towards whatever yours may be.

This thread has a rather nasty whiff of intolerance. I'm off.

FromEsme · 17/11/2012 18:54

Ha ha ha, yes, sorry for slagging your fish fingers. You can slag my haggis whenever, I'll get over it.

KitchenandJumble · 17/11/2012 19:09

YANBU.

Of course CDW is entitled to her opinion. And I am also entitled to my opinion. And IMO, she is a racist twit.

It's ludicrous to suggest that she doesn't know better. What nonsense. She isn't the Dowager Countess, raised in Victorian isolation on a country estate. She's a highly educated woman who came of age in the Swinging Sixties, FGS.

I cannot stand this sort of tripe about "feeling like an outsider in my own country." Yes, and those people she was insulting are in their own country too. How ironic that she somehow doesn't seem aware of this. And her statement about how she would really like to see multiculturalism rather than "monoculturalism." Actually, she sounds like she would be more than happy to have a "monocultural" society, as long as it was the culture she identifies with. Along with a few charming "ethnic" eateries to give the area some ambiance. Hmm

Sadly, racism of this type is alive and well. As some of the posts on this thread illustrate.

Punkatheart · 17/11/2012 20:43

I went to a small village in Italy recently. Not many tourists and some hostility on my first day there. Staring and suspicion. One woman in a shop set her dog on me! Shops close at 12.30 and I had forgotten and tried to go in. Next day I went down again...went at the right time, bought some things using very stuttering Italian. But I smiled and complimented what I bought. Still a few grumpy shopkeepers. But I waved and left.

I just kept going down, walking around and trying to converse. It took a while but eventually there were some hellos, smiles and one shopkeeper spoke proudly in a few English words. We had a laugh.

It cuts both ways. I could have run away with my tail between my legs but I wanted that lovely food, I wanted to meet Italian people.

nailak · 18/11/2012 02:22

about over 90% of what the shariah courts do is grant women Islamic divorces. yes they exist.

Mimishimi · 18/11/2012 03:30

I didn't think anything she said was particularly offensive given her age until she brought up 07/07/2005 the circumstances of which are very, very murky (some argue that the perpetrators were likely to have been put up to it by intelligence services - not necessarily domestic). Anyway, I digress, you cannot say that 'they' all think the same way when it comes to this just as many Christians don't all hold the same levels of belief.

If they want to look to reasons for a broken society, I'd point them towards all the devastating wars we've had....