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Miss Dickson Wright - what a nasty vicious racist woman she is!

407 replies

vivizone · 17/11/2012 01:46

Well she fits in very well with the DM ethos.

Disgusting person

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2233958/One-Fat-Lady-race-row-Muslim-ghetto-jibe-The-Islamic-area-Leicester-frightened-says-TV-chef.html

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FromEsme · 17/11/2012 15:33

Agreed thebody . Think my mother who rises at 6 to go and throw potatoes around her allotment would resent being referred to as elderly though.

thebody · 17/11/2012 15:45

Yes perhaps Esme, mine is 78 and she would probably kill me.

Abra1d · 17/11/2012 15:47

CDW was lost in Leicester. ''None of the men would talk to me when I tried to find out where I was and how to get out of there because I was an English female and they don't talk to females they don't know, while if the women could speak English they weren't about to show it by having a word with me.'

I'd have felt pretty hacked off in the same situation, regardless of who the people were, their colour, ethnic origin, etc.

In answer to Seeker's test-your-right-on-ness test: I find the Eastern European produce aisle really useful as I there are lots of ingredients I like to cook with quite regularly which are now easier to use.

Erm . . . Is this good or bad?

FromEsme · 17/11/2012 15:50

Abra1d what does she been by "they don't talk to females they don't know". Are "they" Muslim men? That's what it sounds like to me, and it is utter bollocks that "they" don't talk to women they don't know.

Why does she assume the men could speak English but the women couldn't?

She's just making a lot of assumptions, many of which are quite dangerous.

Abra1d · 17/11/2012 15:55

Perhaps they didn't understand her, you may be right. But isn't that a bit worrying, too, that you could go to a British city and find streets full of people who don't or won't speak English: none of them?

FromEsme · 17/11/2012 15:59

Yes or perhaps it just didn't happen. I find it hard to believe that it did, if I'm honest.

Do I find it worrying that people don't/won't speak English? I don't know. I've lived in plenty of countries with big expat British/American populations where no-one can speak the local language but no-one wrings their hands over that. I can see that it is a problem in some ways; in other ways I don't. The fact that the government is cutting ESOL programmes is not going to help that issue, that's for sure.

nailak · 17/11/2012 16:00

Yes of course, those women born and bred in Britain can't speak British Hmm

Did She try and speak to every person on the street? or did she beep at a few from a car?

If a car beeped I wouldn't look around, coz I'm stush like that.

fallingsun · 17/11/2012 16:01

Yabu. She's entitled to her opinion, I've been areas like she describes in north London and it can be intimidating, particularly the way some of the fundamentalist men look at you as a woman NOT wearing a burka.

MichelleObarmy · 17/11/2012 16:03

She comes across as thick, to be honest.

My mum is 65 and isnt racist. HTH.

AmberLeaf · 17/11/2012 16:04

How do you know what they are thinking though fallingsun?

FromEsme · 17/11/2012 16:04

fallingsun really? How do you know that the men are a. fundamentalist and b. looking at you because you're not covered?

Do you have a fundamentalist mind-reading power that I don't?

usualsuspect3 · 17/11/2012 16:07

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FromEsme · 17/11/2012 16:07

usual now are you sure? Are you sure they weren't looking at you thinking "infidel slag"? And planning to explode you?

FromEsme · 17/11/2012 16:08

Because, you know, if all these men are going about looking at uncovered women, I'm surprised they have time to do anything else.

They must get really bored.

nailak · 17/11/2012 16:10

how do you look at someone and determine what branch of Islam they adhere to and what they are thinking? that is a good trait to have. I don't even know if my local mosque is bralvi or deobandi.

usualsuspect3 · 17/11/2012 16:10

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nailak · 17/11/2012 16:10

and is it only muslim men who check you out, or do tohers do too Grin

ilovesooty · 17/11/2012 16:10

65 is so not elderly and is certainly not an excuse to be racist or bigoted!

Absolutely.

usualsuspect3 · 17/11/2012 16:13

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tethersend · 17/11/2012 16:19

"I've been areas like she describes in north London and it can be intimidating, particularly the way some of the fundamentalist men look at you as a woman NOT wearing a burka."

Hang on- so do Muslim men look at women or refuse to look at women?

I think we should be told.

thebody · 17/11/2012 16:23

Men look at women,, and........ It's when no one looks you need to worry!

tethersend · 17/11/2012 16:25

Like Clarissa did?

SuzySuzSuz · 17/11/2012 16:27

The difference with this is her opinions are being published so the reader needs to be able to decifer what is opinion, fact, crass generalisation or hear say. The motives of why the article was published are also relevant....

There may be areas where some people may feel uncomfortable, I think part of this is the basic unfamiliarity of being the only white person present / being in a minority which for some people seems to be a new or strange experience even in this day and age.

We're not all the same and the key is being open to learn about things which may be new to us and, even where we may not understand other people, at least respecting them and their choices.

I both enjoy and dislike these threads, it's great to see how far we've come as a multi cultural and tolerant country but also how far we still have with some of the issues that still exist.

In my experience there's a spectrum which people sit / can move on with views on race, religion etc. At the far end is racism: unaccepting of any different views, completely steadfast on their racist views which may be based on their own limited experience, hearsay, complete generalisations or the media.

A bit further in is 'inexperienced' which can sometimes come across as racist however the difference here is that people are open and can change their views when hearing others /after learning more / having different experiences.

I come from being brought up in a completely white area in the North, moving down to London about 10yrs ago, and being with my black partner-now husband for 9yrs.

I was also in a hospital waiting room for about 8hrs yesterday where the DM was the only newspaper there to read. I did not touch that paper the entire time there which says clearly what I think of that 'news'paper.......

thebody · 17/11/2012 16:38

Yes good point tether!!

ilovesooty · 17/11/2012 16:44

I've just been looking at the comments and ratings under the article. How bloody depressing.