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AIBU?

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7 degrees and no hat or coat on babes in arms

122 replies

orangeflute · 16/11/2012 11:22

Why do people do this? A woman just walked past me outside of Tesco with a baby in her arms. Thin sleepsuit - that's it. AIBU to think she should be keeping the poor little love all nice and snuggly?

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mrskeithrichards · 16/11/2012 12:09

And your child pinkpepper is a poor little thing

mrskeithrichards · 16/11/2012 12:11

I have only just dug out socks for ds who was born in april!

LookAtAllTheseFucksIGive · 16/11/2012 12:11

Themo, if its a cold day and we're going in the car then yes but after 10 minutes or so the older ones take all their layers off and I ask them to help dd2 take hers off too. On quick trips I find a normal coat or thick cardy suffices. Personally I haven't found it to be all that chilly yet. I'm in Manchester and my kids still aren't wearing any hats, gloves etc.

prettybird · 16/11/2012 12:12

If the mum was just on her way in to the shop YABU.

Unless the temperature is way below freezing, then the baby is hardly going to get frostbite between the warm car and the warm shop.

Stinkyminkymoo · 16/11/2012 12:12

YANBU. I've seen a lot of this and think its odd. My 3mo DD always wears her cashmere hat my DM knitted her so is always toasty warm.

Same with the weird trend to carry your baby everywhere don't they ever put their baby down?

devonsmummy · 16/11/2012 12:13

Last weekend while watching DS at football there was a 2-3 year old wearing a t-shirt & shorts watching too.
It was freezing, my dd (same age) had vest, poloneck, cardi , knotted leggings, slipper socks & snowsuit on.
He was crying at the mums land rover door asking for her to get his coat.
She ignored him Sad
Poor little thing

dexter73 · 16/11/2012 12:14

Just wait until your dd is a bit older and can take her hat off!

mrskeithrichards · 16/11/2012 12:14

Put baby down where? When?

worldgonecrazy · 16/11/2012 12:14

Unless you know the background YABU.

DD is very hotblooded and has never liked excessive clothing. She can manage in a couple of layers and be perfectly happy, even in cold weather. She takes after her Grandmother.

IMO too many parents risk overheating by swaddling children in layers and layers of clothing. I've seen children in normal clothes, plus snow suit over the top, plus blanket, plus padded pram cover, plus hat, and the parents don't remove any layers when indoors.

Even worse - some parents don't remove coats in the car, even though this lessens the effectiveness of the restraints in car seats.

LookAtAllTheseFucksIGive · 16/11/2012 12:15

My kids would never keep hats or socks and shoes on. A few times (when the kids were younger and in buggies) I have been walking back from the shops to find a sock or shoe I hadn't notice had been kicked off.

mrskeithrichards · 16/11/2012 12:16

Its hardly a weird trend to carry a baby!!

Indith · 16/11/2012 12:17

YABU.

I often take mine out between car and shop or something with no coat or anything. I live within spitting distance of our village hall and sometimes go in the evening with the baby. I never put his coat on so that if he is asleep I can put him to bed when we get home without waking him. Last time it was snowing when we left to come home Grin.

thecatsminion · 16/11/2012 12:17

I thought this might have been me too! I worry about DS being warm enough and will put him in socks, mittens and a hat before we go out. Last night he managed to pull off the mittens before I even got out of the building and then kept pulling the hat over his eyes and then screaming because he couldn't see.

Snowsuits are good, but he can't fit into the car seat with his thickest one on, and still takes off the attached mittens.

YANBU because babies should be kept warm (although how do you know what's under the sleepsuit? I put two on yesterday to keep him toasty). YAB a bit U because it can be impossible to get them to keep all their warm clothes on.

honeytea · 16/11/2012 12:20

Maybe the child had been sick in the car on their coat and hat.

I was with my little sister in the north of sweden just above the arctic circle, it was -27. We had been to a friends house and my little sister had been mucking about with the dog and her + dog ran into the mop bucket, it went all over her thermal trousers and normal trousers and also all over her coat. She had a jumper dress on bare legs and boots she refused to wear any of my clothes and we were going out for dinner. She walked maybe 400 meters from the car to the restuarant very very under dressed and she was fine.

silverfrog · 16/11/2012 12:21

oh, this could easily have been me.

ds is perfectly fine and warm.

he may look like he is wearing 'just' a sleepsuit, but usually has a vest, t shirt, and socks on underneath. (neglected third child wearing a mish mash of hand-me-downs Grin. as long as it is clean, it's fair game!)

he gets too hot in his car seat if I put a jumper on him as well, and over-heating can be very dangerous. he spends a fair bit of time in the car after dd2's school drop off (for dd1's school run), so it is important he is comfy for that.

all 3 of my children have run hot rather than cold - dd2 will skip across the playground not wearing a coat unless it is bucketing down with rain, as will dd1.

I would trust the parent (the person holding the baby Hmm) to judge how many layers the baby needs to be wearing - after all, they are the ones best placed to judge how hot/cold the baby is.

cheekydevil · 16/11/2012 12:22

I think it is a lot more dangerous to be too hot than it is to be a little cold for a short time?
I felt really upset for hours after seeing that toddler, I know it is not my place but I saw my DD has a febrile convulsion when she was a tiny baby because I stupidly allowed her to get too hot when she was ill.

Whatnowffs · 16/11/2012 12:23

I did read somewhere though, mrskeith that there is a bit ofa trend for people to be carrying babies around, mostly dads doing this - it scares me witless when i see people carrying a baby in public, i know im probably being a bit paranoid but what if they trip? it doesn't bear thinking about - a car chair, a sling or a buggy is the place for a little baby when walking around. So a very weird trend if you ask me.

silverfrog · 16/11/2012 12:24

oh yes, meant to add - ds doesn't wear a coat in the car because then his car seat straps would not be fitted properly.

instead of spending 5 minutes getting him into his coat while we hang about the car park, I prefer to jsut get on and get dd2 into school - in the time it take sto get his coat on, w could all be there and back!

cheekydevil · 16/11/2012 12:27

I did not know about the coat in car seat thing.
See, there are always things to learn. :)

PinkPepper · 16/11/2012 12:28

Are the people moaning about parents carrying babies the same that'd in the next sentence moan about screaming babies. Sometimes my baby wants to be with me. Sometimes I've not got my sling. So yes, of course I'm going to carry him! Surely there's nothing more natural?

silverfrog · 16/11/2012 12:28

at it being a weird trend to carry a baby everywhere, and then commenting on how cold abbies are generally.

a baby carried (whether in a sling or not) close to an adults body is going to be warmer than a baby left in a pushchair with no convenient heatsource nearby.

still, I mut remember to tell 15 week old ds that no, I musn't carry him anymore. he shoudl be a big boy, and learn to sit/lie on is own. I mean, who knows what bad habits I am instilling in him by carrying him about. I'm sure he'll never learn to walk, and I'll rue the day I started all this carrying lark Hmm

honeytea · 16/11/2012 12:32

I don't think carrying babies is a dangerous new trend I think it is the natural way we as humans transport our young. What an odd thing to say. What about the 9 months that the mother carries the baby inside her tummy?

the silly rules in materity hospitals that you can't carry the baby it has to be in the little fishbowl box thing is maybe scaring new parents into thinking they don't have the ability to safely carry their baby.

Mousefunk · 16/11/2012 12:35

My ds (2) walks everywhere. Back in Feb he was overtired and moody so I carried him for a while. It was a cold day, he had a thick coat, mittens and a hat with jeans&boots. An old man walked past tutting and said 'And they wonder why they get sick' I was so Confused did he want me to wrap him in a duvet?? So evidently people have different ideas of what constitutes a warm outfit.

Also I second toddlers chucking their hats off and pulling mittens off. My DCs often had no hat/mittens on because they'd thrown them on the ground ten times and I just gave up.

The woman may have just rushed in warm car to warm shop, not really a biggy.

PeazlyPops · 16/11/2012 12:36

What?! Carrying your baby is a weird trend? I've heard it all now!

DameMargotFountain · 16/11/2012 12:40

you know when posters come on and say 'only on MN' and then sit all Confused and really at a loss for words?

well that

how the actual monkeys can you know exactly what is going on for that parent/child on her carrying a child and laughing?

maybe she was going to tesco to buy the baby a new coat?