to think the new ASDA advert is the biggest pile of sexist crap in a long time

[MaureenLove]

to think its trying to APPEAL to women? dur!

I feel sorry for the poor bastards who work in the hotel industry and have to miss christmas with their families, so they can go and work serving up dinner to rich arseholes who seem to think only they deserve not to have to 'drudge'

Well doubtless they are northern working class dregs and should have picked a better career or something.

You would hope the tips at christmas would be bloody good though.

I have always wondered why Christmas roast should be more panic-inducing than normal roasts, but always assumed that I don't get it because I am foreign and/or thick and/or of the wrong class and/or shopped in the wrong shops. In fact I still don't get it, though limitedperiodonly has gone some way in enlightening me. The smell of burning martyrs, indeed.

With the exception of her DH and the bit where she has to sit on the pouffe I recognised quite a lot of my own Christmas. I don't consider myself a martyr. I also put the lights away every January and they're always tangled.

I'll tell you another thing, due to an admin fuck up on the part of DM whose job it's was to source last years turkey, we had a fresh Asda bird.

Cooked Delia styley it was bloody lush and considerably cheaper than the free range bird I normally get, who must surely see out his final days watching a 48" flat screen whilst getting a daily maniped for the amount our butcher charges.

Definitely put me off Asda.

There's a Waitrose about 15 mins walk away. You have to dress up though.They had a really good wine offer the other day - 25 per cent off. Sorry Oddbins.

I had to walk home with it clanking all the way which was a bit embarrassing but it was dark by the time I went. I did four trips but they do lovely wine carrier bags.

They have a dress code?

So the choice is pay the minions to do it or be the people who get drunk and fight?

I do love your fantasy world Xenia, I bet you'd really enjoy actually being that person.

They have titled people linerunner and women with serious jewellery, turbans to hold the flesh up and scary plastic surgery. They used to have Chris Evans too but he moved. He used to flaunt his hungover paleness and eyebags shamelessly which made me feel better.

SIL loves Christmas lunch in a local restaurant and has been known to insist on a treat from her busy life.

Don't know about anyone else eating there at xmas but she's very friendly so no worries there amberleaf.

I've heard Christmas is far too cold and common for ski-ing. Aren't you supposed to wait until late February at least and then only in the smart bits of Austria, Switzerland or Italy? Not that I know anything about these things. I read it once in Tatler at the hairdressers.

Yeah, Christmas on the slopes is for riff raff. I went twice.

Transylvania was brill.

New money Limited, terribly vulgar

I feel sorry for the poor bastards who work in the hotel industry and have to miss christmas with their families, so they can go and work serving up dinner to rich arseholes who seem to think only they deserve not to have to 'drudge'

My friend was always shortstaffed on Xmas day, and I would volunteer! Triple time and a nice hefty tip for 3 hours works and back in time for my own Dinner at about 4pm? Best "days" work of the whole year imo :o

I would much rather get £60 plus another £40 tips and cook my own lunch than spend £50 per head for some batch cooked crap!

Can't wait for my 13yr old feminist dd to see this one!
She's not recovered yet from Icelands 'Mums go to Iceland' slogan. They received a very irate email from a very irate 12yr old.
Wonder how Asda will respond this time. She contacted them before over the fact that only Mums shop at Asda according to their advert. They replied that the majority of Mums do the shopping so thats why their advert is aimed at Mums. GRRrrrr!!!!!!

Sorry Xenia I'm sure you are very pleased with yourself and your life but you do come across as terribly boorish...

Go pixies dd!

"yeah, Christmas on the slopes is for riff raff. I went twice." LineRunner

I spent one Christmas on the slopes, in northern Japan. Snow was like icing sugar. Had a bento (Japanese sushi picnic box) for lunch.

We will have someone cook all the food and buy it at the hotel. Women don';t have to accept Christmases they don't want

ermmmm........does that include the women who are forced to work in your hotel because they need the money? I volunteered so I was happy to do it, but serving boorish entitled arseholes because I had to would have been a different matter altogether.

Xenia, I am sure that you are only posting this crap for a reaction, but you really need to make sure that what you are posting isnt self contradictory!

My point is to do as you like. Don't be martyr mother. Now you and the family may not want to ski over Christmas but there may be something else you prefer which involves no cooking and activities you like. Do that instead.

Just talking to my friend on the phone, she worked in the ski resorts when she was back packing and said "Only chavs ski at Xmas!!" Dont shoot me, that was a direct quote :o

Oh it was so brilliantly wonderful, Christmas in Transylvania. 'Champagne' that was fizzy petrol at a quid a bottle, the couple where the woman fell in love with the embarrassed ski instructor, my gypsy curse and head injury and the biggest laughs with the nicest people I've ever met on holiday.

I'd go again.

As I said pick a holiday you enjoy. We love it. It's about being in fresh air and moving all day. It is also or was when they were younger about being a very snowy place where Father Christmas and the rein deer can get their sleigh. Very Christmasy

I am just saying that mothers, particularly those who did not make bad career choices which mean they have no money, can ensure a happy Christmas they enjoy which is not put upon martyr. As ever it is a feminist issue - housewife equals alwful life in relative poverty. Full time working mother in good job equals having the Christmas which can make the whole family happy.

Sadly I've never been on holiday with my DCs. No dosh. Long story.

I have a theory as to why many young women choose to not identify as a feminist. I reckon they have been on here and read Xenias posts.
Xenia in your above post you have slagged off women for making bad career choices. You dont sound like a feminist. You sound like a classist twat.

Rolleyes at Xenia and the 'career choice' line

A revolting advert from Asda.

Xenia- feminism is about women having choice. However, you sound like a very arrogant, unpleasant person.

I hope your views work out for you.