to think that child benefit cuts are

[mumsfretter]

understandable even though we personally lose as a family, again! However, I resent people who are much much richer than us getting winter fuel allowance still.

Aibu that the two benefits should have been cut together on the same basis or not at all.

Pinkey, with the best will in the world you sound spectacularly naive.

My best friend waited until she was 35 to have a baby, they both had good jobs. 3 yrs later she split with her DH as had become an alcoholic (previously only been a moderate drinker). The day she asked him to leave (because he wasn't safe around their DS) he walked out of his job. You can imagine the financial implications of his "fuck you" statement.

Are you seriously trying to tell me You begrudge her child benefit?

I really hope your smugness doesn't bite you on the arse. Oh, and a really good attribute to be a good parent is a huge dollop of empathy, something in which you are clearly lacking.

Aw love it....
"Get rid of cb"
"When my child is born it is going stright into a savings account"
lol... If you are against it really hun you would not even claim for it now would you.. ??
Good luck with your little bundle of joy though.

I'll give you this pinkie - you're either so hard-faced that you just want to piss people off with your arrogant attitude so carry on regardless, or you really do believe your own shit.

Either way, I'm bowing out. You're annoying me.

Pickles I know lots of 'it'll never happen to me' type people, including some good friends. They are nice people, just a tad naive and ever do slightly judgemental. Most people are naive and judgemental about things they've never experienced and don't understand, so don't let anyone like that irl (or on a forum) bring you down. Until someone's been in our situation, they just won't get it. They just won't.

Could be a troll?

CB along with any other welfare help should be stopped for people who do not need it of course.

I wonder what is worse, people who have children that they need CB from the state to help support or people who have children they can support themselves but who claim CB anyway, even though they freely admit they have no need of it?

Seems like one is claiming out of necessity while the other is claiming out of greed.

Thanks kitty

Vonherr - lol holier than thou, you lot are on a right witch hunt tonight! if my partner left me for a 20,30 or 40 year old id deal with it, thats life! Another one who thinks because my dc isn't here I'm not worthy of an opinion

Gordy - I'm being judged left right and centre here for working, having a loving dp, waiting on my first baby and having supportive parents, everyone is judged no matter what, I've never said ppl shouldn't have support when needed just that it shouldn't be a life style choice and isn't the tax payers fault when things go wrong.

Kitty - I've not said he'll never leave me just that he'll never abandon his child, you can all say 'we thought that' till the cows come home I just know he wouldn't do it, i have faith and like a lot of you I've been burned heart broken and in pieces but times a great healer

Bogey - where did I say my life was perfect? Far from it you've assumed that.

Everyone here seems very negative 'what if this what if that' you get on with it that's what, why be so hung up on the past? Best form of revenge is being happy afterall

Even assuming your parents remain in good health until your child reaches 18, why SHOULD they want to take care of your child, Pinkie? (YOUR child, not theirs). Aren't their child rearing days over? Shouldn't they be able to enjoy their good jobs and no mortgage without having to run around playing nursemaid? Or were you proposing to pay them the going rate (how much do childminders cost these days?) whilst you support yourself and your child "by any means necessary." The cost of full-time child care could prove a tall order on one salary alone.

Unfortunately not everyone has supportive family on whose generosity they can rely/exploit in times of crisis and such people may find themselves having to rely on state benefits to keep their heads above water. Unless you think that only those who live on Walton's mountain should be allowed to breed, you really can't discount the possibility that you may one day find yourself in the same situation as described by others here.

I'm being judged left right and centre here for working, having a loving dp, waiting on my first baby and having supportive parent

No you're not.

Your being judged for saying that anyone who doesnt have those things isnt your problem and shouldnt have any financial support from the state. You are being judged for your snotty attitude to people who actually know what they are talking about, who know that you could fall out of love with him, that he could leave, that he could abandon his child, that you may not be able to find a job, that you parents may not want to be your unpaid childminder, that sometimes shit happens and it isnt just as easy as saying "I'll cope"

"Kitty - I've not said he'll never leave me just that he'll never abandon his child, you can all say 'we thought that' till the cows come home I just know he wouldn't do it, i have faith and like a lot of you I've been burned heart broken and in pieces but times a great healer"

A lot of women believe they have chosen a good father for their child and been seriously burnt by this. Unless you have a crystal ball you have no idea what the future holds.

FWIW, I have a loving husband, we both work and have never (and we are more than a decade older than you) claimed benefits. I pay my taxes so that people, if they fall on hard times can claim benefits.

I just know he wouldn't do it.

You know nothing of the sort.

Pinkie, smugness is such an unpleasant and ignorant trait.

Pinkie you aren't - people are just pointing out how smug you are coming across

no one is judging you for any of the things you mentioned

single parents are judged all the time - simply for being single parents - which, as has been illustrated, is not something most of them planned or wanted

Sunshine - I'm not against it read my posts - it should be means tested, I partly believe it should never have existed, ill be claiming it as after paying tax half my life my child is entitled to it to benefit them. Ill give your blessing on my bundle a miss thanks as I don't believe it to be genuine

Not a troll seems you lot can't accept anyone with a difference of opinion and just want to make people who make their own way in life and have decent partners and family feel they've done something wrong

I'm sure most single parents never thought the other parent would abandon their child, otherwise they wouldn't have had kids with that person in the first place, ffs.

Everyone here seems very negative 'what if this what if that' you get on with it that's what, why be so hung up on the past? Best form of revenge is being happy afterall. That's fucking hilarious! Yes, because all the single parents on here haven't just 'got on with it' have we, oh no . And I don't recall saying I wasn't happy. Where did I put that, please?

Oh yes it's very easy to- what was it?- oh yes 'deal with it'
So bloody easy.

before I become extremely vile

Pumpkin - do tell me your in depth knowledge on my dp?

expatinscotland - I find negativity and wrongly formed assumptions very ignorant but hey everyone's different

Gordy - I'm not intending to come across smug that ppl taking may comments and making assumptions, it seems anyone who isn't struggling or having a hard time isn't allowed to be happy for what they have

There is nothing wrong with being in a stable relationship with lots of money coming in and family there if needed, but there is also nothing wrong with claiming cb when needed.

And sometimes people need a little more than 6mo to get back on their feet.
It would be inhumane to stop cb, especially to those that rely on it to support their families.

I wish you well pinkie i really do and hope you & your future dc never come across hardship, but please have some compassion.
Once you have you newborn snug in your arms, you will want to protect her from everything and you will then see what we are talking about-Humanity.

be happy - happy is good - smug comments to the less fortunate goes a bit further than happy though

I was you 10 years ago ...but actually I was never smug or complacent about it

it should be means tested, I partly believe it should never have existed, ill be claiming it as after paying tax half my life my child is entitled to it to benefit them.

Presumably you and your partner do not earn enough to put you above the threshold for CB otherwise your justification for snaffling the £££ would be even more incoherent.

Pickles - what else should ppl do other than del with it? Cry? Complain? Play the 'my life's so hard card' Have a go at others... Oh hang on...

Kitty - I didn't say you weren't happy I was stating a fact, assumptions again

My blessing was real of course. Its a lovely new baby after all. :)

Most people who claim CB have worked/are working so thats fair right?
If they are not then their partners/husbands/wives are so thats fair right?

Single parents again most have had a job so have payed tax so thats fair.

So where is the problem ?
You have every plan to claim it so how can you say it should not be around?
That was my point.

pinkie if you don't need it, then don't apply for it. Simple.