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To wonder why so many honour killings happen in Islamic countries when Islam preaches peace?

999 replies

Mooblies · 02/11/2012 21:11

Also, how could a parent who loves their child consider killing them for honour, or do the people that commit them not really love their children?

OP posts:
PosieParker · 10/11/2012 10:16

Cote! Yay I won, the arsehole debate bingo. You said DM.

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:16

Brycie - People post after each other on here. It is how you post on a linear forum like MN.

As I said, if the shoe fits, feels free to wear it. "Know thyself" and all that.

Silibilimili · 10/11/2012 10:16

posie, it is then cultural too. The people who do it here in the uk you will find have not assimilated into British society. They have not taken on any of our views or traditions. They are holding onto a culture of a place they come from.

Brycie · 10/11/2012 10:17

Did we forget that in Turkey, a country where 90 per cent? of the population are Muslims, half the murders are thought to be honour killings?

Is there someone in this thread saying that honour killings are required by the Qran? Could you point out where? Because I haven't seen it.

Silibilimili · 10/11/2012 10:17

Good post cote.

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:18

Gosh, you are easy to please Hmm

I said many other things as well, but none of it got through, obviously.

Brycie · 10/11/2012 10:18

Cote - I accept that you aren't calling me a bigot. But you're too mealy-mouthed to say it.

PosieParker · 10/11/2012 10:19

I tend not to listen to people who think themselves superior and are just plain rude.

Silibilimili · 10/11/2012 10:19
Grin
Silibilimili · 10/11/2012 10:20

That was to cote.

PosieParker · 10/11/2012 10:20

What about the 'lewd' women that must be under house arrest until death? That's in the Quran.

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:21

Brycie - Do educate us. How many murders take place in Turkey per year, and how many are honor killings?

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:22

"I accept that you aren't calling me a bigot. But you're too mealy-mouthed to say it"

You are hilarious Grin

So, basically, what you are saying is that you are a bigot, but I am not saying it because I'm "mealy-mouthed".

Err... OK, if you say so Smile

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:23

Of course, Posie. You don't read my posts. That's why you react to them.

PosieParker · 10/11/2012 10:27

A bit passive aggressive again today Cote.

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:31

Still not reading my posts, I see, Posie.

You have a nice day Smile

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:32

Still waiting for Brycie to come back with her wisdom on Turkey...

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:34

Will it be a long wait, I wonder?

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:38

I suppose, it will...

FreudiansSlipper · 10/11/2012 10:42

It is easy to spot bigots. Something they share is that they think they are smarter than others and if they do not use certain words they are safe from being called a bigot

it is easy to recognise keep denying it you are fooling no one

OldMumsy · 10/11/2012 10:44

Cote the Quran is not complete, perfect, and fully detailed. It scares me to think that there are people like yourself you believe it is TBH.

CoteDAzur · 10/11/2012 10:46

OldMumsy - You completely misunderstood.

I don't believe any of it.

Quran says that it is "perfect, complete, and fully detailed" and all you need to know as a Muslim.

My point is: Honor killings are not in the Quran, neither is FGM. Therefore, as far as Muslims are concerned, neither honor killings nor FGM are part of Islam.

PosieParker · 10/11/2012 10:50

Hey Freud, if it's so easy to spot perhaps you could copy and paste. I'm guessing you probably won't though.

It's easy to see apologists and people in constant denial though. When people connect culture and religion, but then deny religion has any responsibility they are in denial.

FreudiansSlipper · 10/11/2012 10:55

Like I said just not using a few certain words fools no one

PosieParker · 10/11/2012 10:57

I thought so.

You cannot find any posts that are ignorant or bigoted EVEN THOUGH you claim they're easy to spot!