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AIBU?

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To worry that this *Could* destroy us before we really get started together? (Long)

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Redline · 17/10/2012 04:16

Hi Not sure how to put this as I'm a man & not used to but getting lots of practice of late via MN lol writing about my thoughts & emotions? But will give it a go so bear with me if I'm over-descriptive somewhat in what follows; I'm someone who is normally very unlucky in love & recently got out of the lower depths of Hell a Very bad relationship with a woman who was about as close to the personification of pure evil as can be imagined in one person - Unfortunately? I have a DS with this Creature of the night nasty woman so still have to talk to her & interact with her to bring him up as best we can?

Anyway I recently (This Feb') met another lady (on POF of All places) who is kind, erudite, caring, sensitive, pretty, lovely to talk to (& very nice to look at to Wink ) & who is basically the antithesis of my ex-fiancee (yes I know what was I thinking being engaged to her Blush ) Most importantly (for my battered heart & hers to as she's been through the mill somewhat also)? This lady likes me very much & Indeed sought me out on POF much to my undying shock at so gorgeous a creation thinking even slightly nice thoughts of me Shock & we began (via FB & online & phone before a couple of eventual meetings that went well) what can only be described as an emotional affair with her & she eventually (after a rather rocky period where I made one very bad mistake & really upset her) told me she'd been falling in love with me.

Anyway? To cut a long story slightly shorter? This angel from above stunning lady whose singlehandedly restoring my faith in womankind? Is 36 to my 34 (as of this year) & so (surprisingly)? Is the first woman I've ever been involved with whose Older than me? Further? We both have one child (me a DS aged 3, she a DD aged 17) are both possessed of similarly sarcastic & very quick senses of humour, finish each others thoughts & sentences on the phone, just click some of the time & feel so right together thus far; I think we might have a long term future if our 'babysteps' towards a poss' relationship (her words & both our idea) come off in short?

Anyway this woman I've found myself falling for come to care a lot for? Is also as of this year around March/April time in a new job after previously being employed as a teacher for around 10 years until this year; I'm not sure but judging by some of the tones & words I've heard from her? (things like "don't feel sorry for me, it's my job, my choice, I'll get used to it, I think") I'm beginning to think that she maybe regrets moving into this job which as far as I know? Is that of a Family Support worker which brings me to the problems.

I am currently involved in a Vicious custody battle over my DS with the Bride of Dracula my ahem not nice ex' and have had all manner of untrue allegations & lies hurled at me both verbally & (eventually) in print in the form of both allegations in court applications & via solicitors letters from her (string of different) briefs; I have replied in kind a little but other than that? have no legal involvement in my life of any sort bar one visit from the police a year ago when we broke up & she lied & Tried to fit me up on a particular charge (which collapsed 2 weeks later & she later admitted lying about & apologised for). Anyway? My new (soon to be fingers crossed) Lady has got very upset re' her job context when I've spoken about what's gone on re' me & ex' & our son along the lines of "how can you put me in this position hearing all this - do you know what I deal with like that every day at work?" but then just to throw another spanner in the works?

She's recently told me when we begin our relationship proper (as opposed to our Current Emotional Affair/Long distance relationship? If 18 miles is long distance - feels like so much more) that I (due to her Job) will have to have extended CRB checks carried out not just on me but my entire family & even house If she were to be staying there regularly with me (even though only me & fortnightly my DS live there right now) further? That as long as any allegations are being maintained against me in Court? She can't deepen our relationship due to this as "I can't be with someone whose had allegations made against them";

Further? I've got a bit of a problem re' PK's due to an operation 7 years ago that almost killed me & left me basically dependent on them & she's told me "I can't be with someone whose dependent on PK's". She's suggested waiting until the case re' My DS is finished & then meeting up & seeing where we go as she's Admitted? Feeling really strongly for me despite all the recent proviso's & prepartory to this & me undergoing the CRB? She's recently started asking me How DS' case is going in certain aspects which I've been frank & open with her about but then? She's telling me later I tell her to much & put her in "impossible positions" again & all the while? I see my ex' parading man after man into & out of her & our Son's life whilst (partly) thanks to her & her Fking allegations? I can't even move on Slightly with a woman I've fallen for in a mahoosive big, big way;

Anyway my question is 4fold I guess? AIBU to Hate my ex' for doing the damage she is doing to me & this possible DP of mine by maintaining allegations that have no basis in reality just out of clear malice, spite & venom (which she's had aplenty for me for a while now; Funny how those we love can hate us so much & vice versa when it all goes wrong Sad); Secondly AIBU to be not a little confused by (possible) new DP's differing reactions to me re' my DS case despite it's (possible) importance to us in the future or is she as confused about all this as I am? And lastly? AIBU to think she should be as honest with me as I've tried to be with her (she knew all about my problems when we got involved? I made no secret of them on POF and it was never an issue until her new job came about)? She's recently made noises & taken actions that make me think she's getting impatient for the case to end & us to get on & see how we are together or not? But I'm prepared to wait for her & I think we're a good match (she's Taurus & I'm Cancer & the starsigns match if nothing else LoL - Yes a man who believes in those - shocking I know Shock).

Anyway basically? I've had one hell (with that being the operative word BTW) of a Bad time in my life with romance & this woman even at my age? Is someone who I just get the sense Might be the one & for the first time in my life? I think we Could have something together fingers crossed - I'm sometimes to honest & humble for my own good & sense that may have worked against me here but she did ask me not to lie & hide stuff from her by omission so I took her at her word & did my best to do just as she asked;

Anyhow 4th (& final) question? AIBU to put all I've got into trying to make this work & move on from my battered, ruined husk of a past lovelife to something happier at long, long last? Or am I just wasting my (& her=New DP's) time & it will all end yet again re' me in heartbreak & hurt all around? I'm so worried now that yet another relationship in RL I'm involved in will get shot down before it can even take off. I've let the drawbridge & barriers to my heart down one last time but don't know if? Babarians are going to storm & sack it yet again or I'll finally get the love story & fairytale ending I so have wanted for a long, long time now;

I'm so confused so if anyone can help/advise? I'll appreciate it (& them) lots. I guess in the final analysis? I think really like this Lady (& Know she does me) &? I Really want it to work with her so I'm not in the wrong to not want us destroyed as a couple before we even get started am I? Actually in fact? Scrap what I just said - I don't like her - I'm in love with her - there I've admitted it. It's not wrong of me to want to save & build on that is it? I'm so confused & worried for our future together if that is future there will even be? Right now I just don't know & that really worries me as I've let down all my defences for her & don't want to be hurt again.

Yes I admit it LoL I'm a romantic at heart as you prob' knew from the first paragraph all guessed by now but? Even we have our limits & I? Feel I'm at mine now - One more nasty shock disastrous Relationship of the sort my hearts had all to often in life? Well If that happens? yet again? Then Let's just say I fear it Will finish me with women forever & if only for this lady & what I feel for her as well as my hopes of going on to raise my DS with a lady I love who loves me by my side & just being Happy with her? Well let's just say I really don't want that to happen so for me? I guess now? Is all or nothing time. Here goes nothing..........

Sorry for the length - fire away & again? I will really appreciate any (& all) help & advice so I'm not diving blind as it were (re' the "here goes" bit).

Anyway thanks for taking time to read this & take Care all.

Redline.

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geegee888 · 18/10/2012 11:33

OP - re your writing style. Have you seriously never noticed its a lot different to other people's?

And has it therefore never occurred to you that you come across as very strange and odd because of it?

Just in case I haven't made it clear, the impression that your odd style of writing gives is that you are a very disturbed person.

Can you not simply copy how others write/behave/interact, and learn that way? People simply do not want to hear this amount of detail. You will alienate them instead of engaging them.

Though to be honest, if as an adult, you haven't worked this out for yourself by now, you are probably a hopeless case.

Pancakeflipper · 18/10/2012 11:48

Redline - I hate how you talk about your ex. Even if she is the vilest female ever, you don't need to bang on about through out your post. And I bet her version of your relationship would be very different.

The new woman should run for the hills based on your opening post.

bantamrooster · 18/10/2012 11:55

There's quite a lot of bile being poured out in the original post, although as Redline says he'd had wine and painkillers and a very bad day, so it was a bit too stream-of-consciousness to make much sense.

Can I make one suggestion for people here: I think the OP now has a plan of action, which he's written himself here and other people have pointed out similar ones.

Redline - you now have something to do. Don't keep responding on this thread, as your writing style is, as has been pointed out, going to wind people up. I'm not qualified in any way to say whether you have mental health issues, but counseling would be advised. And please please can you try and keep responses succinct, take out all unnecessary bolding and punctuation as it's not going to help.

Go do what you have decided needs doing. Back away from the new woman, seek counseling to deal with the issues you've had in the past, focus on your child, and stop posting on forums like this as your prose style is just going to invite more criticism, which you don't need.

Good luck

brrbrrwinteriscoming · 18/10/2012 12:34

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Chubfuddler · 18/10/2012 12:42

Please stop calling grown women "miss". It is patronising in the extreme.

I don't think this board can help you, you need professional help. You really really do.

MakeItALarge · 18/10/2012 12:57

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boredandrestless · 18/10/2012 13:23

I have to say I have never EVER seen such long winded waffly bullshit on here - and that's saying something!

I have tried and failed to read each post you have written, and am having to take info from other poster's replies. Try to use 5 words instead of 20. People don't have hours to read - you would get more replies and advice if you did this and that's why I'm pointing it out to you.

This woman has a teen DD and a responsible job. You are unemployed(?). Have a nasty custody battle going on over a young child where allegations have been made about you and your child is known to social services. You have a painkiller addicition. I'm sorry but in her shoes I'd be backing off running for the hillsand leaving you to sort yourself out. Going through your custody issues, battling your addiction with help from GP, and getting some general counselling.

You haven't even slept together yet and there's all this pedestal worshipping and angst. Hmm

ScreamingManAndGoryOn · 18/10/2012 13:37

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BellaTata · 18/10/2012 13:40

ANYWAY

This is mumsnet, why not go on the dadsnet section and post there. I haven't read all your post as you kept saying anway and the bold words and smileys were getting on my nerves.

Go back to your old thread about your PK addition and ED and carry on posting there.

CelineMcBean · 18/10/2012 15:42

I'm not sure what the poor folk over in Dadsnet have done to deserve this either?!

Perhaps best solution for op is probably to turn off the computer and see that counsellor. They are paid to listen and can be extremely helpful.

waltermittymissus · 18/10/2012 15:48

You need to stop waffling. Seriously. I have no idea what your problem is because I have given up reading each and every one of your posts.

What is with the abundance of unnecessary crap? Couldn't you just get to the point?!

AmIthatbad · 18/10/2012 16:30

brrbrr your post made me laugh. I wanted to do something similar but was too scared as my last post got removed

Nancy66 · 18/10/2012 16:34

Nice to see a semicolon though

MadgeHarvey · 18/10/2012 16:57

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flow4 · 18/10/2012 17:33

You are being grossly and unnecessarily nasty, Madge. Calling anyone - let alone someone who is obviously disturbed - a "howling froot*loop" is very offensive. If he annoys you, just stop reading.

brrbrrwinteriscoming · 18/10/2012 21:35

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brrbrrwinteriscoming · 18/10/2012 21:38

do you think this thread could win some kind of prize for the sheer amount of people who have had their posts deleted? ohh! I hope so!

MadgeHarvey · 18/10/2012 21:40
Pancakeflipper · 18/10/2012 21:47

I think it could win the award for the longest post where you get to the end and wonder actually what was the question?

Bobyan · 18/10/2012 22:21

Dude, she's just not that into you.

JudeFawley · 18/10/2012 22:26

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NotQuintAtAllOhNo · 18/10/2012 22:29

Wow, never ever seen such a disorganized and ludicrous post. Is your mind always this chaotic?

The difference between you and Woody Allen is that HE has a point.

NotQuintAtAllOhNo · 18/10/2012 22:31

Sorry, I posted in haste. Knee jerk reaction to your first post.

See a counselor. Get some help organize your thoughts. But if I were you, I would think twice about any custody battles right now. You sound like you need a break.

AmIthatbad · 18/10/2012 22:38

OMFG. I CANNOT believe that brrbrrr's very clever post was deleted. Jeez, it made me laugh every time I read it.

Mind you, mine was deleted and I never said anything bad, Oddball aint that much of an insult, really.]

On top of the Scottish, marsbar,haggis, shortbread, ignorance thread, I am really losing faith in MN as the home of free expression with deference to others.

werewolvesdidit · 18/10/2012 22:43

A lot of you seem desperate to bully someone who is clearly vulnerable and has come here asking for advice. You should be ashamed of yourselves.