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to think that banning the use of the word "God" is a bit much?

361 replies

MiniMonty · 11/10/2012 01:55

Need the opinions of many women and Mothers here...
The wife has suddenly stated that she is "offended" by our three kids (and me) saying "oh God" or "God in heaven" or "for God's sake" etc as she has recently become a bit God Squad and rediscovered her Christianity.

Caused a huge row over the kitchen table three nights ago and it rumbles on with wife being pretty committed to the idea that no one should be allowed to say "Oh God" or "for God's sake" etc.,

My view is that this is unreasonable (and a bit silly) and even if you take it seriously in terms of not offending peoples' religious ideas - still a bit silly.

Am I wrong?

It's been rumbling on for three days and nights now and I need something...

All and any cast iron responses to the religious bullying very much appreciated.

OP posts:
LRDtheFeministDragon · 11/10/2012 15:25

That just reminds me too much of 'Oh, Jeffrey in Coupling.

monkeysbignuts · 11/10/2012 15:40

seeker I love that!!! Might swap in our house hold too lol.
My son is only 5 & started telling me off for saying "oh god" This is his school filling his head with shite & its just a bog standard school, not even c of e or catholic!

MikeOxardForHalloween · 11/10/2012 15:44

OP your whole post is really disrespectful and dismissive of your wife. Do you love and/or respect her at all? Try acting like it. Of course that is going to offend her as a Christian, why on earth would you insist on keeping on doing it? YABU and sound like an awful dh. I hope you're not such a tit about other things to her, the poor sod.

Latara · 11/10/2012 17:20

Are 'hell, bloody hell, & oh, damn' seen as blasphemy; & if so, why?

LRDtheFeministDragon · 11/10/2012 17:21

Yes; because 'bloody' is 'by our lady', damn is 'God damn you'. Not sure about 'hell' but I think any invocation of the supernatural is a bit of a no-no.

JamieandtheMagicTorch · 11/10/2012 17:28

Darn you all to heck!!!

Latara · 11/10/2012 17:29

I just don't think God / Allah / G*d (God is the same in all Abrahamic religions) would be exactly bothered by blasphemy - after all he doesn't seem too bothered about stopping all the much worse things that take place, such as wars & ethnic cleansing.

In fact according to Christianity it's ok whatever sin you commit, because you can ''give all your sins up to Jesus'' then ''be forgiven & have eternal life''... that includes war criminals & terrorists apparently!

But a ''forgiving Lord'' can't tolerate someone saying 'OMG' - hmmm...

thebody · 11/10/2012 17:35

I would be very dubious if my dh suddenly started telling me what to say and what not to say. That's controlling and unacceptable.

I suspect that if you were a woman posting about her husband bratting because she said a word he didn't like you would get a different response.

YouMayLogOut · 11/10/2012 17:35

God is apparently unimpressed by blasphemy Latara. It's one of the 10 Commandments "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain".

But a ''forgiving Lord'' can't tolerate someone saying 'OMG' - hmmm...

Of course God would be able to forgive this just like anything else.

Why don't you think a "forgiving Lord" should forgive war criminals and terrorists if they genuinely repent?

LRDtheFeministDragon · 11/10/2012 17:36

'In fact according to Christianity it's ok whatever sin you commit, because you can ''give all your sins up to Jesus'' then ''be forgiven & have eternal life''... that includes war criminals & terrorists apparently!'

It's really not.

But I do get your logic about blasphemy vs. God not preventing wars.

In the theology, it's because God isn't really a person with emotions like 'forgiveness', I think? People are meant to understand it that way because otherwise we can't get our minds around it, not because God is actually meant to be up there being petty and vindictive.

Btw, I am only trying to say what the theology is (to the best of my knowledge), not to suggest you shouldn't disagree with it.

Latara · 11/10/2012 17:46

Does that mean i can rob a bank then genuinely repent?

I'm sorry but i could never ever forgive some evil people; some live too long in comfort so i'd like to think they at least burn in hell (if it exists).

I prefer the old testament 'eye for an eye & a tooth for a tooth'.

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Latara · 11/10/2012 17:49

Sorry if i'm offend anyone with Christian beliefs, but my family are going through a shitty awful time right now & i don't think me or my family have done anything especially bad to deserve it.

hackmum · 11/10/2012 17:49

"Oh God" is something I say all the time. I used to have a friend who was offended by it and wouldn't allow her children to say it, so I tried to avoid saying it in front of her, which was hard, because to me it's like saying "Oh blast" or "Oh crikey".

People are odd about these things, though. I have a Catholic friend who happily says "Jesus Christ" when she's annoyed.

Doesn't really answer the question, though, does it?

LRDtheFeministDragon · 11/10/2012 17:58

lat, of course your family hasn't done anything to deserve it!

No-one who says any such thing should be calling themself a Christian (or a decent human being).

That is not how the world works, I am utterly sure of that.

Latara · 11/10/2012 17:59

& sorry i think, well i know that i've gone totally off topic so it's best i retire from this thread & anything else controversial right now :(

LRDtheFeministDragon · 11/10/2012 18:03

I'm so sorry this thread struck a bad chord with you.

I hope your family things are better very soon.

I'm sorry if I upset you, I really didn't mean to be anything more than flippant.

catwomanlikesmeatballs · 11/10/2012 18:05

yanbu, she didn't have a problem with it before she converted, she can't decide to impose her new beliefs on you now. You didn't marry a religious nut, you probably wouldn't have if she was that way when you first met her, she chose to change, she has to live with the consequences of it. It's her problem.

I wouldn't indulge dp if he had a personality/morality transplant as a result of falling for religious fairy tales, I'd be pissed off and probably end up leaving him, I couldn't tolerate someone so prissy and full of nonsense.

YouMayLogOut · 11/10/2012 18:06

Latara, sorry to hear your family is going through a bad time.

I'm not offended at all, these things are interesting to discuss and it's good to hear other opinions.

Yes a bank-robber can be forgiven, of course. Doesn't mean you go robbing banks with the intention of getting forgiven later though! :o

It sounds like you would prefer a vengeful God rather than a forgiving one? But forgiveness doesn't mean God is fine with sin/hate etc, far from it.

Trouble with the "eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" view is that we're meant to take the plank out of our own eye rather than looking for the speck in everyone else's.

thebody · 11/10/2012 18:14

Totally agree catwoman...

monkeysbignuts · 11/10/2012 18:42

latara most people who are going through a bad time either turn to religion or turn away. don't feel bad x

socharlotte · 11/10/2012 18:48

I think it is a good idea not to allow your children to say these things anyway.Even though yopu don't find them offensive lots of people will!

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