To be shocked to learn that a teaching assistant take drugs at the weekend?

[LesleyPumpshaft]

Like the thread title says. Found out she takes cocaine and E's when she her family have her kids, so does her boyfriend, the rest of the time she is a complete piss-head.

She has also kids and lots of people seem to like her. She has not been sacked, so is obviously doing her job at the school.

None of my business what she gets up to I know, but AIU or naive to be rather shocked by this revelation?

Sorry coke not 'come'.

"A lot of people on here posting that everyone does it in their circles sound TBH like they don't know what they're talking about."

Why do you say that? Surely it's just a case of them moving in circles that take drugs and you moving in circles that don't? How does that add up to them not knowing what they're talking about?

Yes exactly 1.1 million people in a population of 50 million people that's hardly anything It's 2.2%.

and yet we're to be believe that Mumsnets posters make up a number of those people and the people they socialise with Well yes. There are no doubt some MN users who use cocaine. Or socialise with people who do. Why would you find that hard to believe.

be ause apparently everyone is doing it- are they? Erm, no. 2.2% according to last survey.

I cannot name one person who is snorting/ smoking come at the weekends. It must not happen then.

lol at the teachers at my DS's going halves on coke at the weekend. Lol away.

Goldenbear Do you think, then, that those who say their social group do it are lying? YOU may not know anyone in your group who does it but that will be different for everyone, obviously.

The boho parents at your child's school may do things that they don't chat about at the school gates, especially to people who they know are anti-drugs. (people who do dabble with substances of any description often have a radar as to who is 'straight'!)

I have a group of friends who are fellow mums at my DC's school who I have known now for 2+ years. I have been out with them socially numerous times. As yet, I haven't told any of them about my experiences with drugs, precisely because I know that the truth will be unpalatable to many of them.

chandon - its not just mexico - its here - on your door steps. people dont realise though - they cant do - can they?

i wish i could tell you about the attempt murder i went to - its horrific but i cant give details. it was over coke and cannabis. he wasnt some drugs lord either.

I just can't imagine all these 'professionals' finding a) the right person to buy this stuff from b) entertaining the idea of visiting the kind of characters that sell coke to buy it from - unpredictable people that they often are. Even if you're buying it off a 'nice' dealer they have to buy it off not so nice people that might be present when you're buying it off them. Other people who buy the drugs off your dealer may simarly be unpleasant. A lot of 'professionals' do not feel comfortable in that kind of company in a normal context let alone deliberately put themselves in that situation. Coke dealers aren't prepared to take risks by meating you out and about which leads to people visiting them in residence. The average professional would fine that a very risky option all around, especially if they're a parent. Sorry I just don't believe it.

No I don't mix with people that take drugs - I'm glad to say as I'm a 35 year old grown up!

You don't believe professionals ever take drugs?

Okies.

Well I have and yes people talk about their experiences in the past/ pre children - believe me none of them are straight but everyone including my DP's friends just cringe when we talk about it now.

I do know what kind of people deal and in some cases I know the damage it has caused to my DPs friend. MDMA escalates to coke escalates to smack, loose your home start begging on the street. Another of DPs friends, bored very privileged background got entangled threatened, manipulated into being involved in a huge shipment of coke with contacts abroad, he got caught and has a 15 year sentence. It is illegal and illegal activity always has unsavoury characters involved.

I think it is a lot of stealth boasting as someone pointed out. People say these things to get attention and to make them sound exotic but like I said I can't Imagine the average musnetter being a coke head and I'm sure they're not!

I believe professionals take drugs but not lots of them - no.

Why has this turned into a playground spat?

Who cares if you think you know more about drugs than the next person or if ALL your friends take them or you worked for the fecking BBC where they were all it? Who gives a flying shit?

I've never seen so many superiority complexes gathered in one place before.

LOL at the teachers snorting coke at my DS's school- yes because they don't exactly fit the profile.

What's "the profile"?

Sorry TheRhubarb, I just don't like being told I am straight as if it is a problem and that all my thoughts on the subject are ignorant as I do not take drugs. I don't feel superior about history, I cringe at the past- sadly.

Not my DS's teachers Cat which is a good thing in my mind.

Cannibis, Cocaine and E's are illegal - you could report her if you feel strongly enough. I wouldnt like a known crackhead teaching my children.

Having said that some great peoples of our time have been addicts - Pete Docherty, Jim Morrison, Sherlock Holmes, House etc

I wasn't suggesting it's a problem to be straight. And I also didn't say you were straight. I was talking about people who do use drugs often being able to tell when people are not the type to take drugs ('straight') and therefore being careful what they say around them. As Jarvis once sang 'Jesus it must be great, to be straight' and I agree with him because I'm glad I'm now straight- MY personal experience with drugs was not a happy one in the end. However, I recognise that plenty of people are able to use them recreationally without issue to their personal and professional lives. Lucky them. If I could, I would.

'People say things like this to make them sound exotic'. Really? I'm sorry but
I do think you're naive. Why would so many MNers lie about this just to sound exotic?

GoldenBear - these people who say they take drugs and have wild weekends. They don't. They sit in and watch shit TV.

Someone has friends who takes drugs and based on that, they feel they can confidently say that half the population are at it.

Utter bollocks.

This is just about making oneself seem cool and a little bit 'rock and roll'.

Never believe what a druggie tells you anyway

YABU. It's not your business.

And no, there really isn't a 'profile'. If you went to an NA meeting you would see that.

zippey, Sherlock Holmes is a fictional character and House is a TV series I believe?

I don't think that pretend people count.

"Adults convicted of serious sexual offences committed against children under the age of 16 since 1995 were automatically placed on List 99, additional reasons for inclusion were sexual or violent behaviour towards children, abuses of trust, drug offences, any violent crime (for example, conviction of rioting or football hooliganism), stealing school property and deception in job applications. Medical conditions such as drug or alcohol abuse and mental illness were grounds for exclusion."

List 99 is the list of people barred from working in schools. If the TA gets caught she will be put on it and not only lose her job but will not be able to work in any other school. AFAIK grounds for being barred from teaching/working in schools have not changed.

Sorry Waterlego I'm not naive. I'm not sure it's a good idea to confess to recreational drug taking on a public forum in the present or the past.

Do you mean me? I'm not worried about confessing that here, not at all.

Steve Jobs used drugs fairly regularly.

No I don't mean you.

'Steve jobs'? Sorry I don't get it?

Just adding to what zippey said.