AIBU to think that child tax credits should only be for the very needy rather than just supplementing people's income? Family of 5 down the street with only one part time earner heading off for 2 weeks on holiday. Isn't the govt just subsidising thei...

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theinets
I'm a landlord and I'd be a bit pissed off if my tenants tried to pay me in food vouchers!

Food vouchers, for where exactly? Sainsbos? So the poor are going to spend more money to buy fruit than they would at a market. Don't be so dim...the real scroungers would sell their vouchers anyway.

Oh i thoight that was a dig at me I said about vouchers pages ago but was joking yet somebody thinks it is a good idea

ah mrs jay, noone is digging at you

Voucher idea is always brought up by the haters..... It always gets shouted down too

Come on inets fight your corner...

So, anyone ready for Christmas yet?

theinets.
Why the fucking hell should I be marked out as an exhausted carer at the shops. I once had an idiot like you somebody at the post office complain about my benefits when I was collecting my carer's allowance from the post office. I did ask her if she looked after four disabled people. She said no.
I asked if she worked an eighteen hour day. She said no. I asked her if she had to dress her husband, put him in the bath, wash him, get him out. She said no. I told her I was off to spend my money on a bottle of wine, and she still complained.
I don't want vouchers because arses like you judge people like me.

Vouchers - problem is i remember when some mums etc had milk vouchers at the supermarket; everyone in our small town knew who was on benefits then, horrible idea definitely.

Dawndonna - i would make you a if you live next door to me. You don't deserve to be judged by anyone.

oh just ignore her, she's loving this!

dogs - Christmas noooo please don't say that word, it's still sept just.

Yeah but Christmas seems to last at least five months these days!

Oh, shall I? So tempted, can't resist...

Mitmoo

«pfft»

shhhhhh....

ooh I love vouchers! nice big fat one for Waterstones would keep me happy happy happy.

oops, that's not what people meant was it?

going down the shop in a min, I need bread and milk.

Latara

Did the goady OP ever return? No?
funny, that. Almost like - oh, never mind.

YANBU. It is crazy that the government pays people to have kids they can't afford, especially in such an overpopulated and financially broke country. It is also crazy that a couple need only be working for 24 hours between them to get working tax credits. If both parents are healthy, then one should be working a full week at least. People have become lazy and got used to an entitlement culture which mainly benefits big business (via tax credits) and rich landlords (via housing benefit) both of which contribute heavily to both Conservative and Labour party coffers so these benefits are unlikely to be withdrawn anytime soon.

However, Mumsnet is like the armed wing of the Guardian, so you probably won't get much sympathy here.

What's wrong with vouchers for various items that need to be bought. Yes, you may be marked out as a benefit recipient, but so what? If you're proud and dignified enough that you claim benefits (to spend on wine?) shouldnt you be just as proud for people to know you are on them? Resorting to abusive language and swearing really doesnt help your case.

as many others have said, you dont know their business

maybe they have saved a portion of their earnings for a few years to afford holidays
maybe relatives have given them a present ie the hol as a pressie
maybe they have come into some money/won bet/won lotto
mayhe you should mind hour own business?

and hols in the sun have come down in price, so who knows, maybe they booked it 2 yrs ago, saved every penny for it

etc etc

i hate the way others compare themselves with those doing something nice and become suspicious or jealous. just be happy for them?

ah its funny how all those who claim tax credits must be scum of the earth.
I am trained to degree level and had a very good job prior to having my children. We now have one income because I can't afford to put 3 children in nursery/after school club etc (& why would I want to?) So husband works very hard (50/60 hours a week) & I raise our children. The government tops our wage up that's all. We pay our council tax/mortgage etc etc. We don't live off benefits so we probably save the tax payer money. get all your facts straight before you judge people who claim. And while I am on a roll I worked and paid ni & paye so I have contributed from the age of 16 to 28 into the system. I am having a few years out and when my children are of school age I can work and we won't need it anymore.

theinets
Just for you

{-Voucher---}
{One Cattle Prod}

{-Voucher----}
{One Wooden Spoon}

Just in case yours are wearing out...

People get healthy start vouchers so the poster who agrees with them they are on their way lovey

the bees knees but you have chosen to have 3 children, and are now reliant on state handouts, despite your husband working full time. You will of course love all your children , but if you had had only one or two, the pressure on you , or on the state, wouldn't be as high. Why should the government step into the breach for every increasing family sizes, plugging the gap to pay for nursery and after school clubs? People would cut their cloth accordingly if benefits weren't so lavish. There needs to be personal responsibility. All this has to be paid for by someone, the government doesnt have any money of its own . It's the taxpayer that foots the bill in the end.