To stop giving a shit and get fat!

[Inneedofbrandy]

Im a 10 on top 12 on bottem, this can to yo up and down slightly. Im dreading a life time of denying myself cake biscuits cheese and nachos. Why can't I let myself go ( as my mother would say) and stop giving a shit and just eat cake. Whats going to be so bad if I end up a 14/16?

What's so good about staying a 10/12 I would love to be a 6/8 if I could, but hey I love food and I want cake every day so fuck it, it's winter and I'm going to get fat!

When you say you are eating healthily (up to now) what sorts of things are you eating?

Where many people go wrong is that they don't have the right balance between carbs and protein, and if they are eating small portions and leaving too long between meals, they end up hungry quite a lot of the time (meaning it's only a matter of time before falling off the wagon). Also, leaving too long between meals can encourage your body to store fat rather than lose it as it slows your metabolism.

I never said I was a size 12 in 1970!!!

I mean still a 10-12 since 10 years ago. And still the same actual size, and weight, and so on.

I know vintage clothes are ridiculously tiny.

(born in 73)

Size panflation is a HUGE problem in making people think they are NOT getting fatter.

In supermarket clothes I am a size 8
In normal clothes I am a size 10
In my old (20 year) clothes I am a size 12

Vintage clothes are not ridiculously tiny - they just fitted slimmer people - especially 50's and 60's ones.

Try Monsoon. I love that place. I'm tiny apparently!

I still don't think I'm deluded, unless weighing scales are also changing with time.

People were smaller in the 50s and 60s though. That's what rationing does for you. I'm 5'7, which is on the tall side without being super tall, and I suspect you could go back down my matriarchal line to the dawn of time and not find a single female ancestor my height. What would be the point in comparing my body fat distribution to theirs?

Being bigger then you currently are is unhealthy. Why not look after your body?

Dahlen I mean healthy as in minimum half of my plate is fruit or veg. My snacks are dried fruit mixes or pstastio (sp) nuts and the odd chocolate bar or cake ( about 4 pm) I don't drink every weekend either. Sometimes it's not all veg I have meatballs and pasta ( homemade Tom sauce with any veg blended up in there) but the majority of meals are healthy.

If I go out for food or have a feast ( pizza nachos chocolate fondue ect) I can put on 5/6 pounds over a weekend! That's why I'm so fed up being good even though I like and eat healthy and homemade mostly.

I have got in a cycle of treating myself with food. I don't need to diet just Half a stone and stay there.

I don't understand how anyone knows what size they are - am I the only person with clothes spanning three dress sizes in my wardrobe, all of which fit? It depends on the style, shop, fabric - it varies all the time. Anyway, I feel the same as you OP - I lost four stone this year and am now stuck in a cycle of gaining and losing half a stone. Terrified of regaining the weight but miserable at the thought of a life of denial. It's easy for some people to say they can eat 'treat' food in moderation and maintain their weight but I can't get the hang of it! Low carbing is most effective thing I've found for getting to eat quite indulgently but without gaining weight (just wish I could stick to it!) and running is very effective, I just can't bear to go out in this rain... I tried 5:2 but it made me homicidal with rage. I have no words of wisdom, just plenty of sympathy!

Are there other ways you can 'treat' yourself that don't involve food?

Do you need the snacks you eat (even the 'healthy' ones), i.e. are you actually hungry or are you eating them out of habit or boredom or something? Because if you're not hungry, leave them for when/if you are. You'll enjoy them more that way (hence more of a treat) and enjoy your meals better if you haven't been snacking unnecessarily in between.

I think the whole attitude of 'being good' is massively unhelpful, personally.

I think 'having a feast' might be the same thing as just eating too much, ie more than your body really wants?

If you spread those things out and stopped when you were no longer hungry I bet you wouldn't put on weight.

My family is dreadful - every time we go out for a meal together, theywill order huge portions (well you get huge portions where we go) and spendthe time offering it to other people, then when everyone says no, I'm full, they don't leave it, they carry on like it's a punishment, till they are really stuffed.

Then they order pudding, just because it's nice, even when they struggled to eat their main meal.

I can't bear to watch people stuffing themselves when they aren't hungry.

I just order something small, or nothing but a drink, and eat later when I can shoose how much to have. If it's too much I just leave the rest, but my folks can't seem to reconcile this with normal behaviour.

Dahlen
The whole point of 5:2 - and why it works for many people who have not succeeded with 'normal' eating advice - is the EXACT opposite of what you say.
Routinely eat nothing between meals.
Two or three times a week limit the 24 hour calorie intake to 500
The rest of the time keep it to 2000 a day
and if possible add in some extra 16 hour fasts (8pm to noon)
and the body adapts to what it evolved with - not what we have forced on it in the last 40 years.
Snacking was invented by the food industry.
It is neither needed nor good for us.

Madbus
Please find me the data that says average heights have increased since the 1960's and 1970's (which is the baseline for standardised clothes sizes)

Edmc I know when I'm full but a hour later I can be starving again!

When I don't eat I feel sick and dizzy,

Eating for emotional reasons isn't usually a good idea.

x posts - sorry.

Do you mean you always feel sick and dizzy when you don't eat?

That sounds like low blood sugar, it can be sorted out, often it's caused by stress. Don't panic when it happens. Try to avoid too much sugar and cut down on caffeine as well.

See if that makes a difference. I used to be scared of that feeling but then I realised that in actual fact it didn't happen that often, even if I waited ages without food.

It sounds like you're afraid to go without for a while in case you get LBS. That can make you eat more than you need - I did it for a while this pregnancy as if I didn't eat, I felt sick. I put on a lot in the first few months.

Now I don't get that happening, I've actually lost a bit of weight (still pg) as I just don't think about it till I'm feeling hungry.

Jelly cake I'm going on a upper end high street sizing house of Fraser example not new look, I can get into 8s in there!

Ephininy I could but what!

Really going to try this 5:2 I can do mini fast till lunch the next day and the fast days. Do you have to count your 2000 cal perfectly? I don't know how to count calories arghh.

In Need

Come and join the big thread on the diet board - LOTS of information from LOTS of people trying it in different ways with differing degrees of success

but mostly losing weight while still enjoying wine and pizza on a Friday

And the dizzy thing - try drinking a large glass of milk rather than eating before the next meal time. Sounds like you may need to reset your insulin switches in your system :-)

Ed that's exactly it. I go horrible when I don't eat really dizzy feel sick hot flushes ect. I find that happens more when I eat breakfast and I get to lunchtime starving, if I don't eat breakfast I can go till 1/2 without realising.

I don't eat for emotional reason or comfort. I eat because I like food or I'm bored or I'm at my mums and she feeds me LOL

Talking peace once I'm home and on computer not phone I'm coming over!

Yanbu

I have been trying to start a diet for the last 4 Mondays, finally got the go this Monday...I'm following ww so it's not too restrictive..I put on 4 stone when I was pregnant , lost 3 just 1 to go...I don't want to be someone who still has baby weight to lose when their child is 18 years old

The 5:2 may well be good but at the end of the day all weight loss is down to restricting calories/burning more calories than you chomp whichever way you look at it!

OP - I'm all for having blow outs and thinking 'fuck' it for a couple of weeks.

But who wants to be fat? I don't - bad for self esteem, bad for health.
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I'm about half a stone overweight (again) and am losing it over the next 2-3 weeks as I don't feel great.

I'm not convinced by the 5:2 approach. 80% of people who lose weight by following a diet or regime end up putting the weight back on. Although the 5:2 thing sounds ridiculously easy, I'd bet my mortgage that 3/4 of people would be unable to stick to their 500 calories on their given day.

Dieters who successfully keep the weight off all have one thing in common - a complete change to their lifestyle habits, not a short-term restriction in calorie-laden foods.

If you do 5:2 isn't there a danger of reactive binging? eg, you go crazy and way over the 2000 cals on a starvation day?

As a teenager I reckon I was eating 4000 cals a day easily and was a size 14.

Now I probably eat less than 2000 due to depression and am a size 10-12. Not much difference really but that must be the aging metabolism. I am also v inactive....

a *non- starvation day