Too feel devastated for the wife of the teacher who has run off to France with his 15 year old pupil?

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What on earth went through his head when he decided to do this?! The poor woman has taken all her social networks down out of humiliation I presume. link

Crazy.

The school is getting a caning over supposed safeguarding issues.

Nein, Mary, ich habe nicht das chutzpah to offnen eine neues Thread. Ich glaube der 'Team' ist too getrunken und in rehab......oder ist in prison fur larceny offenses.

• everso proud of them-

show off.

In this country there are two relevant laws:

• age of consent 16
• abuse of position of trust with a person aged under 18

In France on the other hand:

• age of consent 15
• no idea about abuse of trust

So I guess that they have broken no laws in France, whereas in this country he's a paedophile (according to some here anyway).

However from what I can see, as a UK national, the Sexual Offences Act 2003 s72 provides that he would still break UK law by having sex with a 15 year old in France, where it is legal.

LineRunner Tue 25-Sep-12 22:43:58
The school is getting a caning over supposed safeguarding issues.

Not surprising if it's true they were told about this 7 months ago.

if being the important word. I seems pupils were claiming they knew about it, but it's far less clear when anything was actually reported; other than I reached relevant 3rd parties (the police) last week. It's not clear when/whether SS were informed.

The investigations into the investigation are perhaps secondary to affords to get her back.

< and wishes that after the extensive posting on this thread yesterday, that the inaccurate use of the term paedophilia, or references to the ignorant "some" who persist in wrongness, would simply on longer happen on this thread >

If he wasn't having sex with the girl ( or at least wanting too) then why did he take her to a country that has the age of consent as 15 years old ?

I think he is trying to avoid prosecution and is hoping to argue that nothing has happened until they arrived in France with the hope that he gets away with this. It's like he's found a loophole and is exploiting it. If there is any justice he would still be prosecuted under British law as they both are British , but I have a feeling he's going to get away with this.

All this proves is that he is a clever and devious deviant.

If he truly loved the girl , why did he not wait until she had left education and had a bit of an adult life before making a move on her ? ...probably because he gets off on having a power over her , which wouldn't not be there if she was a fully mature adult.

No way in hell is this "love " . It's a perverted man taking advantage of a stary eyed schoolgirl who probably has a normal teenaged crush on him . The bottom line is he's abusing a position of authority , and the poor girl is too young to see this.

I hope she wises up and comes home to her family before he gets her pg.

I agree with droves. France has a age of consent of 15. He will say nothing took place till they arrived there so under uk law nothing is wrong as nothing has happened.
Hopefully, he will be prosucuted according to our justice system and as she is 15 he will go to jail.
Whatever the reasons it is wrong. If the school were told 7 months ago then there safeguarding policy needs looking at. They could have stopped this l.

I don't think he took her to France because of the age of consent. I think he took her there because they are less likely to be found. If they had stayed in the UK the likely hood is they would have been found by now because of the amount of media attention, the amount of CCTV, and I, also think,they went to France because it was easy to get to from the South Coast where they live.

I think it's a bit of a stretch to suggest he headed specifically to France because of their age of consent.

I think it more likely that they went to France because it's the nearest foreign country from here that you can get to in a car.

If it's all about age of consent, then why not head straight to Spain, where it's 13?

It's not beyond the realms of possibility that both he and she will maintain, if and when they are found, that there's been no sexual contact at all. No one will believe them, of course, but without proof there's bugger all anyone can do.

So it may boil down to kidnap.

I have absolutely no legal knowledge, btw, so I could be talking bollocks. Happy to be put right by anyone better informed.

Either way, it's a horrible, horrible situation for both Megan and her parents.

Is it important whether we say "he took her to France" or "they went to France"?

I agree Droves and you make a good point-why would he take her to France unless he planned on having sex with her?

Has a warrant been issued for his arrest, incidentally? Without one, he can't be held by the police abroad if he hasn't broken any of their laws & can't be extradited. I believe.

Thats probably why he went there Crikey
so he could get away with what is illegal here.

I think it was probably more about running away given what he was facing in the next few days, pumpkin. If the legalities of sleeping with an underage pupil - ALLEGEDLY - haven't bothered him for the past 7 months, why does it suddenly bother him now?

Whatever the age of consent, he will still be charged with a criminal offence, as a teacher he isn't allowed to have this kind of relationship with one of his pupils.

There may also be other evidence- texts, e mail etc with might point to grooming.

I agree with you Crikey. I don't think this is to do with going somewhere to sleep together, I think it is purely to run away from the trouble he was facing. Daybreak are suggesting the Police spoke to him last week. France was the easiest place to get to, which would open up,a whole continent of countries that they could easily travel between, making it less likely for them to be found.

Yes I think running away must have seemed the only way to avoid facing up to the authorities but what on Earth is he going to do?

He will run out of money, they have nowhere to live, they cannot use their ID, petrol alone must be costing a fortune.

I also think he is running away from the trouble he is in; and that she has gone with him because it is 'so romantic' and she thinks she is standing by her man. Poor girl. My DD1 doesnt reckon Megan will be able to go back to school when this is over.

Had a conversation with my 82yo mother yesterday, who was very much of the 'silly girl throwing herself at poor man unable to resist her charms' approach. I had to point out that as her youngest GC (my 2 girls) are just 16 and 13, how would she feel if it was one of them? And also about the abuse of power and trust involved. I got quite irate, but get the impression she just thinks I am naive... grrr.

I do wonder if they've headed to somewhere quite specific - a friend of his willing to put them up, or something

Seems very odd that they would leave with absolutely nothing if they were planning on B&B-ing it. Megan's got no clothes or toiletries with her, apparently.

I read that Megan has no clothes or toiletries with her too, Crikey, but I thought it was really odd. She told her mother she was going on a sleepover to her friend's, so I would have thought she would have taken something! I know my teens would have, and I don't know any 15 to girl who wouldn't have gone without her makeup bag!