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Too feel devastated for the wife of the teacher who has run off to France with his 15 year old pupil?

999 replies

chipsandmushypeas · 23/09/2012 17:55

What on earth went through his head when he decided to do this?! The poor woman has taken all her social networks down out of humiliation I presume. link

Crazy.

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scottishmummy · 25/09/2012 18:38

just as you're sure others overreacting.you're minimizing
this isn't a man meets girl (who may look older) and couldnt help lurv each other
it's gross abuse of position and yes he predatory and yes he abusive

FreudiansGoldSlipper · 25/09/2012 18:45

Why would you think a man who thinks he is above the law, has done just a he pleases and groomed a girl in his care, abused his position of power (part of the attraction for this so called relationship) wait until the right age for them to be able to have sex legally

DiscretionGuaranteed · 25/09/2012 18:53

It will not be legal for them to have sex when she's 16 - he was her pupil which introduces a more restrictive regime - they'd have to wait until she was 19 AFAIK.

DiscretionGuaranteed · 25/09/2012 18:54

(he was her teacher but you know what I meant)

FreudiansGoldSlipper · 25/09/2012 18:56

Of course he has groomed her, male teachers will have teenage girls getting crushes on them all the time we flirted outrageously with all the male teachers (all girls school) most laughed others felt uncomfortable and one took it upon himself to abuse the power he had carefully picking girls out that we're in care. If she made it obvious that she had a crush on him as soon as he started any form of building a friendship/flirting/saying or behaving in an inappropriate manner he has started grooming her the power was always in his hands totally and that is what he abused

londonone · 25/09/2012 18:57

Just as a bit of an aside, all those posters who keep saying she is a child. When do you think childhood ends? Because to me she is clearly an adolescent which IMO is very different from a child? Do some people really believe that under 16 definitely child and over 16 adult?

exoticfruits · 25/09/2012 19:08

It really doesn't matter - she isn't an adult.

MrSunshine · 25/09/2012 19:15

When does childhood end...I don't know. Not at 15 though. Adolescent means a person developing from a child into an adult, which means they are not an adult . There is a reason we have 18 as a cut off for so many things.

pumpkinsweetie · 25/09/2012 19:17

Bottom line is, she is a child!
Whether she made the first move or he groomed her is irrelevent, he was a grown-up & in a position of trust.
Teenagers have crushes on teachers all the time but it doesn't mean the teacher should react to it!

londonone · 25/09/2012 19:19

So pumpkin, when will she stop being a child? Is there one particular day when she transforms into an adult?

Tuttutitlookslikerain · 25/09/2012 19:20

It doesn't matter where childhood ends and adulthood begins in this case IMVHO.

The fact is she is a school girl, he knows that because he is her teacher. He has no defence, he can't say he thought she was 16, 18, or 25 because he knew exactly how old she is.

My DS2 Is very nearly 16, he is a child. He is mature in some ways and still child like in others, as are most of his friends, both male and female.

There were pictures of Megan and Forrest on the ferry, onThe BBC news at six, she looked like she had her school uniform on to me. They say she has taken nothing, not even toiletries. Let's hope the cash he has more than likely taken starts running out soon, so he has to use his bank cards, then they might find her.

Viviennemary · 25/09/2012 19:20

As a 30 year old teacher he really should have known better. This is just wrong wrong wrong on every front. And the girl should know this too. But he is the adult and in the position of responsbility and trust so he must shoulder the blame. I am wondering why the school didn't act sooner as it seems this had been known about for months. And I heard on the earlier news that a similar incident had happened at the school before. I think more guidelines should be in place over this. Much much stricter ones.

pumpkinsweetie · 25/09/2012 19:21

No london, but she isn't 16 yet and this has been going on for 7 months.
I would say the day you turn 16

squeakytoy · 25/09/2012 19:21

We have 18 in the UK, but other countries have so many different laws. Is a 15 year old in Spain any more mature than a 15 year old in the UK?

exoticfruits · 25/09/2012 19:21

He was her teacher - his career is over.

pumpkinsweetie · 25/09/2012 19:22

So his career should be over!

exoticfruits · 25/09/2012 19:23

Maturity has nothing to do with it - you are legally an adult on your 18th birthday.( she isn't Spanish)

londonone · 25/09/2012 19:23

Tut so you consider your son a child, even though he could marry or join the army in a few months? When do you consider he may become an adolescent or adult?

Maryz · 25/09/2012 19:23

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exoticfruits · 25/09/2012 19:23

It will be pumpkin- never fear - ended for all time.

londonone · 25/09/2012 19:24

How weird pumpkin, you think you suddenly go from child to adult overnight with no I between stage!

exoticfruits · 25/09/2012 19:24

At 16 you can only marry with your parent's permission.

HissyByName · 25/09/2012 19:25

Due to his supposed position of authority/responsibility, he'll be considered as committing an offence until she's over 18.

pumpkinsweetie · 25/09/2012 19:25

Fwiw i think its absolutely discusting!!
If my nearly 30yo dh ever had an affair with a 15yo it would make me physically sick!

He is a dirty old perv

Tuttutitlookslikerain · 25/09/2012 19:25

Pumpkin today, at school DS2 was in a lesson where they were asked wether they should be able to vote at 16. He was very strong on the 'no' side, becuase he said a lot of 16 year olds are too easily led and don't know their own minds amongst other things, so he (and I) would disagree that adulthood would begin at 16!

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