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Too feel devastated for the wife of the teacher who has run off to France with his 15 year old pupil?

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chipsandmushypeas · 23/09/2012 17:55

What on earth went through his head when he decided to do this?! The poor woman has taken all her social networks down out of humiliation I presume. link

Crazy.

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TunaPastaBake · 24/09/2012 16:04

I don't think they were allowed to answer any questions regarding the teacher - due to the police line of investigation.

CatPower · 24/09/2012 16:06

Her dad was saying that Megan had been in touch and they'd (the parents and Megan) arranged to get together/meet up, was she living elsewhere before she went missing? Sorry if I'm totally wrong, it's such a confusing, worrying story. I hope she comes home very soon.

DogsCock · 24/09/2012 16:09

no cat, she had previously arranged to meet with her dad on sat, prior to disappearing with the teacher. I didn't realise it was thurs according to the press conference, i thought it was friday, unless they made a mistake.

scaevola · 24/09/2012 16:09

SKY is reporting that she asked to stay with a friend on Thursday night, and left her home with that friend. She later told friend she felt ill and was going back home. She didn't.

There are a number of areas which police and parent will not discuss at present.

DogsCock · 24/09/2012 16:10

mum and dad live apart, she was with mum when she left with this man. Due to be with dad on sat.

DogsCock · 24/09/2012 16:10

scaevola - that makes sense of the thurs/fri confusion.

CatPower · 24/09/2012 16:11

Ah Dogs, thanks, I was getting confused between her dad and stepdad.

McHappyPants2012 · 24/09/2012 16:15

I am not defending him, he should not have had an affair with one of his pupils I think he should never be allowed to teach ever again.

I said he groomed her, because I think it is a huge thing for a 15 year old to up and leave her parents, school, family and friend to run off with a 30 something old male, that too me is very worrying.

ICutMyFootOnOccamsRazor · 24/09/2012 16:28

It's shocking how many of us have stories about inappropriate realtionships between teachers and students!

It happened at my (all girls) school too. A married english teacher had a very blatant affair with one of the students. She was probably 16 or 17 at the time. Eventually, she dropped out of school and he and she moved in together. He kept his job. It was grim. The school was so paranoid about the papers finding out that it was all hushed up.

TheOneAndOnlyMaryZed · 24/09/2012 16:33

But headfairy, a crime has been committed. At best a 30 year old teacher has a non-teaching relationship with his pupil, which is against the law. He has also taken a child out of the country without permission from her parents.

Regardless of anything sexual that may or may not have happened.

I don't know if posting sexual messages to a child is a crime, but it ought to be.

The police are saying they aren't worried because they are afraid he will panic and do something even worse Sad. He is obviously unstable, or he wouldn't have done what he has done so far. The police don't want it to get to the stage where they feel they can't come back and take drastic action.

So they (parents and police) obviously have to be careful what they say.

slug · 24/09/2012 16:42

I remember the PE teacher who had a different girlfriend in the 6th form every year. It happens all the time.

However this is the worst one I know about

headfairy · 24/09/2012 16:49

TheOneandOnly you have no proof they have had a relationship. They could have run away together but done nothing. The only thing he might be considered guilty of is grooming a minor - I'm fairly sure there's a new offence of grooming. I'm not condoning the man by the way. Really not condoning it.

VivaLeBeaver · 24/09/2012 16:51

The girl involved is going to struggle to go back to that school. Even in a different school she'll be the subject of gossip and teasing. I'm guessing its her GCSE year as well. Sad

She'll always be known in her home town as the girl who ran off with her maths teacher.

BurlingtonBertieFromBow · 24/09/2012 16:51

Re Chris Woodhead - that's difficult to prove though. It's his ex-wife's word against his, although some other people have also claimed that he was having an affair with the sixth former, and as the legislation against having an affair with a pupil wasn't in force then there's no way he could be tried for it. Look, it could well be true. But there's no way of proving it and it's not really in the same league of freakery and idiocy as the guy we're talking about

headfairy · 24/09/2012 16:51

That's what I was thinking Viva - poor girl :(

reddwarf · 24/09/2012 16:52

I bet they're at the Oktoberfest in Munich - what better place to hide where there are million and millions of visitors. That started on Saturday, they left UK on Friday night.

TheOneAndOnlyMaryZed · 24/09/2012 16:56

What about leaving the country without her parents' permission?

And I many not have any proof there is a relationship, but it would be rather bizarre if he had organised a platonic school trip for one pupil only Hmm

TheOneAndOnlyMaryZed · 24/09/2012 16:57

That was to headfairy, btw. I can't believe anyone thinks that any part of this is ok, or has any sympathy for him whatsoever.

I don't buy this "he fell in love/lost his head/did something silly". That's a load of crap.

OrangeandGoldMrsDeVere · 24/09/2012 17:07

It vile manipulation by a man in a position of power.

She is a child.

I would not describe it as 'cheating' on his wife. That is like saying a rapist is cheating on his wife.

It is in a whole different dimension.

I understand what londonone is saying about the strict definition of pedophilia. I accept what she is saying. However I dont agree that calling him a pedophile is hyperbolic exactly.
It can be used in a non 'kill the peedos way'. Not everyone is aware of the exact definition and tbh I would rather hear that outrage than the common 'well she was almost 16 and probably led him on, you know what girls are like now days'.

I am almost tempted to pop over to another forum to see what they are saying but I fear it will be far to depressing.

That man is the only one who is not a victim in this sorry tale. He has taken her abroad ffs. Her poor parents.

headfairy · 24/09/2012 17:08

TheOneAndOnly it is not illegal to leave the country without your parents permission afaik... I'm absolutely not saying any part of this is good, and I have no sympathy for this man at all. If you can point to a part of my posts that say that then I will reconsider the wording of them...

however... listen to the police in the video clip at the bottom of this page and listen to the language. As far as they are aware no crime has been committed yet . The police don't use language like that if they think a crime has been committed.

Darkesteyeswithflecksofgold · 24/09/2012 17:10

A post of mine from another thread. I felt it was relevant to this one as it demonstrates like this situation does that some people should not be allowed anywhere near the teaching profession.

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DarkesteyeswithflecksofgoldSat 22-Sep-12 21:24:53

In my first year of high school at eleven years old the drama teacher asked me to speak "sexily" to him in front of the entire class. I wasnt too sure what sexy was at that age but went for a slightly breathy voice (id probably seen an old Marilyn Monroe film) and i also did it very quietly because i felt embarrassed. He then told me in front of the entire class that "that was about as sexy as a bag of washing"

BupcakesAndCunting · 24/09/2012 17:12

The whole thing is weird. Obviously.

Ick.

He wrote the girl loads of messages in public view on Twitter about waking up naked next to her and running away. Did his wife/family not see and question him?

He does need a dry slap tbh. What he has done is vile. He isn't a paedophile, though. I don't think that using emotive words like this make the thing any more horrible than it is, just makes people sound hysterical tbh.

Way to ruin a kid's life. Well done.

bochead · 24/09/2012 17:15

Just realised what else is bugging me about this story -

How does a 15 year old leave the country without proper written evidence of parental permission? We are an Island ffs, so it should be pretty difficult to leave the UK mainland without someone committing fraud/forgery (not sure of the legal term but I'm sure you get what I mean!).

If it's possible for our children to be spirited out of the country without any written evidence needing to be provided of parental permission that has MASSIVE implications for the welfare of ALL our children. Human trafficking is on the rise and I'd expect the UK to be taking some really simple minimal routine precautions to prevent it in regards to minors.

TheOneAndOnlyMaryZed · 24/09/2012 17:18

Are you certain? Because I think it is. Up until the age of 16. That's why children under 16 have to be signed in at airports. And why people sign permission slips for kids' trips abroad.

Does anyone know the actual legality? Because here (Ireland), the police told me that I could stop ds leaving the country until the day he turned 16, after that he could go where he liked.

And, btw, I have just watched that clip, and what he has done to those parents is just morally soooooo wrong it defies words. How anyone could watch them and have any sympathy for him is incomprehensible.

cantspel · 24/09/2012 17:19

It seems even weirdier after listening to the parents interview

what the hell is all the

'You know that your adorable princess wants her adorable mermaid back.'

about. It seems overly childish.

Plus you then have the fact that they booked return tickets and were due to return on sunday but never did.