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Too feel devastated for the wife of the teacher who has run off to France with his 15 year old pupil?

999 replies

chipsandmushypeas · 23/09/2012 17:55

What on earth went through his head when he decided to do this?! The poor woman has taken all her social networks down out of humiliation I presume. link

Crazy.

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Pandemoniaa · 24/09/2012 14:48

There are pages and pages where he accused of underage sex, when it may or may not be the case.

Yes, but on the balance of probabilities, he is unlikely to have run away to France with her in order to improve her grasp of trigonometry.

Ithinkitsjustme · 24/09/2012 14:51

I feel extremely sorry for this poor woman, but far more sorry for the girl and her parents, imagine how you would feel if that was your DD. I hope he gets caught and gets a custodial sentence.

TheOneAndOnlyMaryZed · 24/09/2012 14:53

But he is not innocent.

In my opinion it is pretty irrelevant whether or not they have had sex - I mean I hope for the girl's sake they haven't, and I think it is unlikely they haven't, but if it was my daughter, the abduction, the grooming, the sexual innuendo and messaging, and his abuse of his position as a trusted teacher are actually more of a betrayal than if it had been some random 30 year old she met elsewhere.

So I don't see why anyone would defend him, or say "they might not have had sex" as if not having sex would excuse any of the rest of it.

notanotter · 24/09/2012 14:53

Reading his nauseating blog - it seems this relationship is at least a few months old. Perhaps she is pregnant? I'd be surprised if the wife didn't know something was awry with his public declarations on said blog

DogsCock · 24/09/2012 14:56

well according to his twitter account (via the DM) he has posted that he wanted to wake up naked next to her. Hmm

Of course, It may have been taken out of context and be some lyrics or about his wife, who knows, but it is all pointing to a grooming situation.

edam · 24/09/2012 15:00

'Yes, but on the balance of probabilities, he is unlikely to have run away to France with her in order to improve her grasp of trigonometry'

Well said, Pandemoniaa. I'd have put a grin there but doesn't feel right on this topic.

AnOldieButNotSoGoody · 24/09/2012 15:17

It feels like you're defending him mchappypants I'm confused why?

Whatever his reasons he's done and doing wrong.

SuperB0F · 24/09/2012 15:20

I think you are confused, Mchappy. The legal presumption of innocence does not mean that by magic, no crime has taken place in the real world until a verdict is reached in court.

DogsCock · 24/09/2012 15:23

press conference on news channels any time now.

BurlingtonBertieFromBow · 24/09/2012 15:27

Ugh the DM have put the photos of his wife back up.

It's possible that she thought the stuff on his blog was directed at her? How awful to then find out it was meant about someone else - a CHILD

cantspel · 24/09/2012 15:28

I feel sorry for everyone involved even the teacher as i am sure he didn't go out with the intention of getting involved with a 15 year old and wrecking his career.

I am not going to make any excuse for him as the simple truth is no matter what the circumstances are he should never have let it get this far but nor am i going to sit on the side lines shouting for the tar and feathers. None of us know the facts of what has gone on and i would rather leave any speculation to the gutter press.

LadyBeagleEyes · 24/09/2012 15:30

Ah shit, that news conference, the parents are in bits. Sad.

DyeInTheEar · 24/09/2012 15:33

Those poor parents. I don't feel sorry for the teacher at all. A 30 year old man should control his emotions and not get involved with a 15 year old girl and encourage her to leave her family or her school. If he does "love her" he'd want what was best for her - and that would be to leave her well alone for at least another 3 years.

3littlefrogs · 24/09/2012 15:38

Sorry - haven't had time to read the whole thread, but I was just thinking: if I want to take my daughter (aged 14 nearly 15) and her school friend on a short trip to France, I have to have a signed letter from friend's parents in friend's passport, giving permission.

I have been stopped and questioned at passport control when taking my 15 year old nephew on holiday, because his surname is different from mine.

Did nobody at the border control think that a 30 yr old man and a fifteen year old girl who was not related to him, travelling out of the country on a school day might be a little odd?

Or do we assume they forged a letter?

LadyBeagleEyes · 24/09/2012 15:40

I just hope she's ok now, having seen this news conference.
I wish she'd just call her parents and tell them she's safe.
She's apparently scared of the darkSad

hzgreen · 24/09/2012 15:43

I couldn't ever feel sorry for the teacher! Whatever is going on he has taken a child away from her parents and out of the country at the very least. Even though we don't know for sure if anything else has happened I agree with pandemoniaa.

A grown man in a position of influence and responsibility should never put a child in this position and her poor parents, I'd be frantic by now!

DogsCock · 24/09/2012 15:49

I think there is possibly a little more to this than we are aware.

Things such as this have gone on before, and no doubt will do again, but it does seem to be extra main headline news, with the french interpretors and telephone numbers constantly going across the screen.

Maybe the police know a bit more.

LadyBeagleEyes · 24/09/2012 15:51

It's a bit worrying dogscock

DappyHays · 24/09/2012 15:54

The head of religious and moral education teacher at nearby school had an affair with a pupil at his previous school. It was all over the papers locally. There were plenty of pictures of him out socialising, in pubs, with pupils, all girls. He recently moved in with a teacher from his new school who has 3 teenage daughters. I wonder about what is going through her head. She must be an idiot.

scaevola · 24/09/2012 15:57

I don't feel remotely sorry for the teacher. The bits quoted from his blogs show him to be totally emotionally incontinent (I wish I could think of a better word than 'emotionally', as I don't want to suggest anything that has depth or meaning) and using ridiculous language.

I think there may prove to be quite a complex story behind this; time will tell.

I just hope they are safely holed up somewhere, not watching the news; and that when they emerge they will be in touch.

headfairy · 24/09/2012 15:57

I'm a bit late to the farm on this one, but I don't think she's been kidnapped. Just watched the presser and the police apparently "aren't concerned for her welfare". She went willingly to meet him, so far as the police are concerned no crime has been committed yet. Doesn't make it right that this saddo has abused his position and no doubtedly encouraged this relationship. Apparently he sent her messages saying he wanted to wake up next to her naked body.

headfairy · 24/09/2012 15:59

our maths teacher used to play strip maths with a friend of mine Shock

RaisinDEtre · 24/09/2012 16:02

we used to go to the pub with our sixth form english teacher Shock

mind you this was oooh 30+ yrs ago

CatPower · 24/09/2012 16:03

I was only half-listening to the press conference, but one of the first questions was whether the parents knew that the teacher was the girl's boyfriend, and the parents weren't allowed (it seemed) to answer - they both looked to the policeman with them who said something else. Her parents looked absolutely broken, I really hope contact is made soon.

TunaPastaBake · 24/09/2012 16:03

Not really followed this over the weekend - but how long after she was reported missing did they realise she had gone off with the teacher ?

Hope they get her back safe and well soon.

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