To be deeply puzzled by competitive anti- feminism.......

[seeker]

"I'm not a feminist"

"oh, I'm so much less of a feminist than you are"

"I'm so not a femynyst I don't even know how to spell it"

It is one of my favourite things though when I'm told that I am ramming stuff down people's throats, when really I'm just having a conversation.

My mom also refers to her and her friends as the girls, and they're all nearly (and some are, and beyond) 70. But my mother is hardly the paragon of feminism.

At work about a year ago, some douchebag in head office came up with a stupid plan, and there was a call where me and the (female) head of a department in the US said that it was not a good idea, and it should not be implemented, giving reasons, statistics etc. Douchebag then phones my line manager after the call and goes "har har. I think the girls just don't want to do any work har har har". 1 year in, this plan has been a DISASTER and just didn't work out. I TOLD him so. Repeatedly.

"My OH showed me this thread in disbelief after showing me the previous (police statements thread) also in disbelief [tangent: we both have friends in GMP who were shown that thread by colleagues, were offended and instructed not to post in reply.]"

Happy to give them my name and address.

What would happen if I refereed to you all as 'old girls' ?

Because if you say you are a feminist, you might antagonise the men innit and totally won't be a "cool wife" anymore. Or something.

I'd rather over-think than not think, personally.

RCheshy, are you saying that because you, as a middle aged man, didn't feel offended by a superficially similar incident, then it's all OK? We should stop clucking?

And also, grab what buns? Sticky, or sitting-upon ones?

I'd kick you in the cock getmore.

YOUNG GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

get out of my mind

My love for you is way out of line

Better run girl

You're much too young girl

Sez it all

Ah, I see Punk. I thought I'd not been clear/made sense. It happens. So much.

I wouldn't really kick anyone on the cock ever and I am not joking about DV against men nor am I saying I don't like cocks or that getmore is less of a human for having cocks.

arf @ Shirty ( again )

If people refer to themselves in casual, friendly situations as a girl, to me it is just chat, shorthand, film flam.

If they refer to themselves as a young girl I would think they were being a bit odd.

If they refer to themselves as a young girl at their place of work I would be baffled

Here's a funny thing.

Women who are feminists, who think feminist thoughts and believe feminist things, often don't self identify as feminists. I've actually very rarely met a non-feminist woman in real life, but have often met women who don't label themselves feminists.

Equally true is the fact that men who are misogynists, who think misogynistic thoughts and behave in misogynistic ways, don't often self identify as the male chauvinist pigs that they in fact are.

So is the problem that people aren't always very good at self-identifying what they actually are? Or that people just don't like being labelled? Or something else entirely?

Seeker, unless I magically grow a cock when Im 70 then I may well still use girl.

sue, he isn't just an unoffended middle-aged man who thinks something a bit like it sort of happened to him, he has got OFFENDED friends.

Show him some respect.

Someone said that on one of the other threads. Something like 'he called me a bird so I waited till he climbed a ladder and flicked his cock'.

Run The World (Girls) by Beyonce it was apparently recorded to give women strength to take control

I hate here comes the girls, mums know best, men can not cook and clean like women can rubbish it just reinforces the woman's place is at home looking good

If you do grow one Atacareer will you come tell us about it?

and I am using the term correctly, as that is what I am.

It seems the dictionary agrees with me.

Pag wins the thread :

"If people refer to themselves in casual, friendly situations as a girl, to me it is just chat, shorthand, film flam.

If they refer to themselves as a young girl I would think they were being a bit odd.

If they refer to themselves as a young girl at their place of work I would be baffled "

ZIGACKLY.

Well it's not that funny boss really.

Feminist often has negative connotations and frankly not many men are going to put their hands up and go, Me? I'm a right sexist cunt and proud of it, are they?

LOL at Paggy.

I worked with a woman who was in her forties and she used to wear Winnie the Pooh earrings. Winnie the Pooh.

I mean, just...what? Why are you doing that?

Also she smelled of sanitary bins.

Sod telling MN Punk, Ill be going to the Enquirer

The men I work with know their sexist cunts I think. I tell them enough